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Turkey 'has recording proving Saudi murder'
Turkish officials have audio and video evidence that shows missing Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi was tortured and killed inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, the BBC has learned.
Mr Khashoggi, a critic of the Saudi government, has not been seen since he entered the building on 2 October.
Turkish intelligence had "documented evidence" of the murder, a source close to the investigation said.
Saudi Arabia denies the allegations. It says the journalist left the building.
Jamal Khashoggi's disappearance and reported death have prompted international outrage and dented business confidence in Saudi Arabia. Tycoon Sir Richard Branson has halted talks over $1bn Saudi investment in Virgin space firms and several top business leaders have pulled out of a Saudi investment conference later this month.
Also at CNN.
See also: CNBC withdraws from Saudi conference over concerns about journalist Jamal Khashoggi's disappearance
(Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday October 13 2018, @08:24AM (3 children)
Self proclaimed christians do X therefore all christians advocate X and will do so given the chance.
This is already a slippery slope, right? Nope, it depend whether X is permitted, encouraged, a basic tenet of the christians.
evidence A: thou shalt not kill (murder, whatever)
evidence B:Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven
evidence C: For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Evidence C is reported because again you see the "which is in heaven" referred to the will of the Father. Why repeating an obvious thing? me says it underlines the fact that the father is not reachable by man, which rules out men other than the son from speaking AUTHORITATIVELY about his will. In other words if a prophet says god wants you to kill you as a follower of the scriptures have a prob. You might act on a direct order from god, but you can't prove anything as being it, besides the next manifestation of god for the christian tradition is the one of the son, at Game Over.
This is not to defend or prove a religion, but to make you aware of the fact that pseudo-logical attacks against the scriptures is trying to balance an elephant on an egg.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 13 2018, @08:37AM (2 children)
Argue with documented history all you want, moron.
"If X causes you to sin, cut it off"
--Used throughout the christian era to do just that.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Bot on Saturday October 13 2018, @10:04AM (1 child)
"If YOUR X causes you to sin"
Funny how words work, you need just one to change the scope of an entire phrase. Congrats, you just lost an argument to a moron.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 15 2018, @08:59AM
It's well documented how that passage was used in the middle ages right up to the early modern period.
Also it was in greek, so if you want to split hairs don't argue the english translation.
Actually argue the latin vulgate as that would be what was being used by the priests at the time in the west.
Fucking moron.