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Saudis preparing to admit Jamal Khashoggi died during interrogation, sources say
The Saudis are preparing a report that will acknowledge that Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi's death was the result of an interrogation that went wrong, one that was intended to lead to his abduction from Turkey, according to two sources.
One source says the report will likely conclude that the operation was carried out without clearance and transparency and that those involved will be held responsible.
One of the sources acknowledged that the report is still being prepared and cautioned that things could change.
The Washington Post columnist was last seen in public when he entered the Saudi consulate in Istanbul in Turkey on October 2. Previously, Saudi authorities had maintained Khashoggi left the consulate the same afternoon of his visit, but provided no evidence to support the claim.
Saudi Arabia could hike oil prices over the Khashoggi case. Here's why it would backfire
Saudi Arabia's not-so-veiled threat issued in a government statement Sunday emphasized its "vital role in the global economy" and that any action taken upon it will be met with "greater action". But as oil ticks upward, a look at history and geopolitics suggests that while a Saudi-driven oil price spike would bring pain for much of the world, it would ultimately backfire on itself.
"If this is something the Saudis were allowed to do, they'd be really shooting themselves in the foot," Warren Patterson, commodities analyst at ING, told CNBC's Squawk Box Europe on Tuesday. "In the short to medium term we'll definitely see an incremental amount of demand destruction, but the bigger issue is in the longer term."
Any action in withholding oil from the market, he said, "would only quicken the pace of energy transition."
Previously: Turkey Says that a Missing Critic of the Saudi Government was Killed in Saudi Consulate in Istanbul
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by edIII on Wednesday October 17 2018, @12:56AM (6 children)
What I don't understand is Orange Anus. First he effusively declares his love and admiration of Kimmie (after shit talking him), same for Putin (his boss), and now Saudi royalty. Anybody that is in the position to have claims laid against them, Orange Anus defends. Loves to talk about himself as the victim of mob mentality and guilty-before-innocent logic, yet the people he defends.....
He comes up with weird ass conspiracies to explain away the quite easily explainable: The Saudis tortured and killed a critic of the monarchy. Same with some privileged rich little shit that needs to be investigated for rape, but how could he, when Orange Anus crippled the FBI investigation?
I guess Orange Anus's biggest problem is that a bad Saudi Arabia takes his away his positive points of a successful arms deal (if he kills it), and anybody forced to take responsibility for such abuses scares him. For reasons that should be incredibly obvious.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by takyon on Wednesday October 17 2018, @01:03AM (3 children)
Part of the defense, the "rogue killers" angle, seems to have been uttered after he talked to the Saudis. But throughout this debacle, President Trump has emphasized the importance of the $100 billion arms deal.
So here's how it will go. Saudi Arabia will lay out their defense. "Yeah, we wanted to talk to this guy. But we never authorized any killing." They will give some of the killers a show trial, and perhaps even execute them. This will be deemed good enough for Trump, although Saudi Arabia still stands to lose billions in foreign investment over this.
Never before has a cost benefit analysis been laid out like this. One guy's life, vs. $100 billion. Or was it $110 billion? Or a lot less? [talkingpointsmemo.com]
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Wednesday October 17 2018, @01:31AM (1 child)
The Cheeto in Charge has one thing right: If we don't sell the weapons to SA then someone else will. Are our weapon systems better than the competition? How well do they work in actual combat? 3 ways to find out:
1) test test test. Expensive, and tests can be rigged (see also: F-35) (see also: Hurricane, 10% of your very expensive F22s are now toast cuz shit's too expensive).
2) Get into a war and cross your fingers. Expensive. Things could turn out badly
3) Sell to other countries and let them do #2. Cheaper, but you end up selling to people you'd rather not.
You guessed it, sell the damned things to shitholes like SA and hope for a war, then see how well things worked out.
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 18 2018, @11:20AM
That's like saying if we don't bomb a bus full of children, then somebody else will...
(Somebody else already posted a link to the news about it.)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 17 2018, @05:29PM
$110 billion? for one life? That is a steal.
No, really, that's really a great deal. See...
About $9 Million per life [wikipedia.org]
Or maybe...
"Today, the U.S. Office of Management and Budget puts the value of a human life in the range of $7 million to $9 million." [theglobalist.com]
When something like "health insurance" and "life insurance" exist, lot's not pretend that lives are literally priceless.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 17 2018, @01:14AM
MBS has made enemies with his religious and social reforms while Turkey, Iran, Syria and Russia potentially benefit from backlash over this killing. Think [intellihub.com] bigger [extranewsfeed.com]
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday October 17 2018, @01:29AM
Not for the reasons you would expect
Low oil prices in 2015 led to the shutdown of lots of wells as well as the cancellation of plane to drill new ones
That led to decreased heavy equipment sales, with layoffs as well as decreased sales by parts suppliers
That equipment is made mostly in states that voted for trump
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]