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At Open Source Summit Europe in Scotland, Linus Torvalds is meeting with Linux's top 40 or so developers at the Maintainers' Summit. This is his first step back in taking over Linux's reins.
A little over a month ago, Torvalds stepped back from running the Linux development community. In a note to the Linux Kernel Mailing List (LKML), Torvalds said, "I need to change some of my behavior, and I want to apologize to the people that my personal behavior hurt and possibly drove away from kernel development entirely. I am going to take time off and get some assistance on how to understand people's emotions and respond appropriately."
That time is over. Torvalds is back.
He's a quick study if it only took him a month to learn how to understand people's emotions and respond appropriately.
See also: Linus Torvalds is back at Linux while GNU's Stallman unveils a "kindness" policy
Previously: Linus Torvalds Taking a Break From Linux Kernel Maintainership
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Monday October 22 2018, @07:57PM (13 children)
I could very easily imagine a situation where Linus isn't very involved in the nitty-gritty anymore, but still setting overall direction and settling disputes between the top contributors. I could also imagine him turning things over to, say, Alan Cox, and still occasionally chipping in patches and being an informal advisor.
That all said, I can't help but notice that when he's chewed someone out on LKML and it turned into enough of a big public kerfuffle that I've gone through and read the context, the person he chewed out usually deserved it.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 22 2018, @08:00PM (9 children)
There almost always is middle ground sure, but just because someone deserves some correcting does not mean you have to go nuclear about it. Do you agree with the practice of chopping of the hands of thieves? Seems a little overboard to me, but you could make the argument that it is a good deterrent to theft.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 22 2018, @08:06PM
Maybe harsh words are the middle ground, somewhere between doing nothing and chopping off the hands of contributors who submit bad code.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Monday October 22 2018, @08:26PM
There's a big difference between telling somebody off and "going nuclear". Things Linus hasn't done in these situations include but aren't limited to:
- Flat-out kicking them off the project permanently.
- Trying to get them fired.
- Threatening violence against themselves or people close to them.
- Egging their home.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 22 2018, @08:27PM
"but you could make the argument that it is a good deterrent to theft."
It's unfortunately also a good incentive to frame someone.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Entropy on Monday October 22 2018, @09:35PM (5 children)
There's no middle ground with SJWs. They accept no reason, no logic, and no discussion. Kicking a white male off the project for his porn habits that had absolutely nothing to do with the kernel? Completely in line with their thinking..but only if it's a white male.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 22 2018, @11:46PM (4 children)
Yes there is, I did some research as I never cared overly much about the CoC outrage. I found someone hammering on Coraline(?) or whatever her name is and they linked to a thread. In her own words she stated that she doesn't care about personal views as long as they aren't publicly connected to the project. There is 100% middle ground, just not with the white male persecution complex jackasses such as yourself.
This is a watershed moment for the US, you regressive xenophobic assholes are finally being forced to have some responsibility for your actions. Cover it up with all the "meritocracy" and "code doesn't care" bullshit you want, the truth is that you're hateful childish little shits that don't want to take responsibility for anything. The internet ruined you by enabling and normalizing anonymous shit posting. Now communities are pushing back by trying to bring normal human civilization into some small corners of the net, and you can only whinge about it.
Grow up you child.
(Score: 1, Touché) by NPC-131072 on Tuesday October 23 2018, @12:41AM (2 children)
Did you just assume ze's gender and race? Literally shaking right now!
(Score: 1) by NPC-131073 on Tuesday October 23 2018, @01:09AM (1 child)
I sexually identify as an Apache Attack Copter.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:12AM
You know copters take it up the exhaust pipe from the armored division right?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @01:56AM
Racism, sexism, presuming both race and gender, ageism, ableism, the list goes on. The depth and level of your gross and wide-ranging bigotry and prejudice, all exhibited in this post, is literally beyond counting.
Check your privilege!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by krishnoid on Monday October 22 2018, @10:56PM (1 child)
How often has this happened? Is there an archive of 'Stuff Linus said' that people can use to evaluate the frequency and insensitivity of his behavior for ourselves? I'd suspect it would be a small fraction of the emails he sends, and even then would stay mostly content-rich and less ad-hominem.
(Score: 1) by maggotbrain on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:35AM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @01:31PM
We have already seen who will get the reins full time, GKH. And he is sadly a close buddy of the XDG and systemd clowns that are turning Linux userspace into a mess.
Expect the same kind of mess to creep into the kernel once Torvalds officially hands over the commit rights.