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posted by takyon on Monday October 22 2018, @06:40PM   Printer-friendly
from the reptilian-replacement dept.

ZDNet:

At Open Source Summit Europe in Scotland, Linus Torvalds is meeting with Linux's top 40 or so developers at the Maintainers' Summit. This is his first step back in taking over Linux's reins.

A little over a month ago, Torvalds stepped back from running the Linux development community. In a note to the Linux Kernel Mailing List (LKML), Torvalds said, "I need to change some of my behavior, and I want to apologize to the people that my personal behavior hurt and possibly drove away from kernel development entirely. I am going to take time off and get some assistance on how to understand people's emotions and respond appropriately."

That time is over. Torvalds is back.

He's a quick study if it only took him a month to learn how to understand people's emotions and respond appropriately.

See also: Linus Torvalds is back at Linux while GNU's Stallman unveils a "kindness" policy

Previously: Linus Torvalds Taking a Break From Linux Kernel Maintainership
More on Linus Torvalds Taking a Break From Linux Kernel Maintainership
Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct [Updated]


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:19AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:19AM (#752308)

    I just don't care. It's not personal, it's about getting a job done.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday October 23 2018, @07:38AM (3 children)

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday October 23 2018, @07:38AM (#752394) Homepage Journal

    Even where machines do most of the work, those machines are operated by and created by humans.

    Robert Pirsig uses the following argument to prove that such a thing as Quality really exists: imagine a world without Quality. It would be much like Soviet Communism.

    Now I ask you to imagine a workplace in which people's emotions had no bearing whatsoever. I assert even _you_ would not wish to work there.

    Even in the military, which arguably is the most accomplishment-focussed organization in existence, there was always been a strong focus on the feelings of its troops. Otherwise it would have no need to award medals to them.

    --
    Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:30PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:30PM (#752478)

      What do you do when you are siting in a meeting and people are crying (yes sobbing and crying) because their code was pulled or changed because it was found to be potentially flawed? Put it back in to make them feel better? Give them another 3 months to find their problems and correct them at fifty thousand dollar a day over run?

      Working on code that lives depend on, the first time people died I was sick for days until it was shown no to have been my fault and don't want anyone to have to go through that. There are more people involved than just the ones building the system.

      • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:07PM (1 child)

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:07PM (#752511) Homepage Journal

        -ted.

        I regard the ability not to get depressed over one's bad code being discovered as a very basic qualification for any coding job.

        Surely there is some happy compromise?

        Consider that the employee who reports bad code to the one who wrote it should be required to do so respectfully.

        --
        Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:56PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:56PM (#752529)

          The case in point (happened twenty years ago), the code in question was found and fixed during a build and the original author was not notified and became upset when it was discovered that they were not listed as author. It wasn't about depression, but taking it as a personal attack that they weren't good enough. The company had been recently chewed out by a customer for, uh, substandard quality (another org meeting where people started crying).

  • (Score: 1) by nobodyknowsimageek on Tuesday October 23 2018, @08:12AM (1 child)

    by nobodyknowsimageek (4661) on Tuesday October 23 2018, @08:12AM (#752402)

    You realize you just outed yourself as a sociopath?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @03:18PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @03:18PM (#752494)

      It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it.