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South Korea is in the grip of a "spycam" epidemic with covert footage of sex, nudity, and urination posted online in what amounts to a "social death penalty" for thousands of female victims.
The footage may be taken surreptitiously by boyfriends or captured on covert devices as small as car keys. Daily camera checks are now part of life for cleaners in many public toilets.
The spy camera phenomenon has reached such epidemic proportions in tech-savvy South Korea that tens of thousands of women have taken to the streets to march for action.
Srsly?
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Could I have a drug overdose?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @12:39AM (13 children)
"this would not be a "social death penalty" for me, because I am not all that social to begin with,"
IE: it wouldn't be a social death penalty for you since you're already in a social coma for life? Sadly it affects the common individual far more often.
Look at it another way. Given the nature of the biz, you're sure to find legit AVs involving paid individuals to act like they're falling for these pranks. From a business standpoint it's just a LOT safer for the people making the video to have the "Actors" on board with and compensated. So given that shit happens, there's little way for a real victim of these kinds of cruel "pranks" to prove their innocence. They have no one to sue since they don't know who did it to them and they can rant until the cows come home that they're innocent with at least most people going "Yeah right. *I* believe you." ie: Social death penalty.
It's not that people don't know people pee or have sex. They just automatically assume and refuse to believe otherwise that if you're caught on film doing those things, you're a willing participant and thus you're someone they should NOT be hanging out with before people jump to the same conclusion about you by association.
You can complain all you want to the contrary but sadly that's how society works.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by requerdanos on Tuesday October 23 2018, @01:07AM (1 child)
The fact that people impose social penalties on the victims who have already been penalized here is a bad thing.
The people that impose those social penalties, who make it so that such an incident "affects the common individual" in a damaging way, are acting in a (common but) unreasonable, hurtful, and damaging way in response to video showing someone in a personal situation doing something ordinary such as using toilet facilities or having sex.
Their acts (shaming, shunning, or similar) are not only harmful but hypocritical, as they already knew or should have known that most people either participate in these ordinary tasks or aspire to. Yet upon the undesired release of a video demonstrating someone performing them, they consider it to be is evidence of the subject doing something wrong--as if they themselves would not be revealed to eliminate wastes and/or procreate should a similar video be published featuring themselves.
The wrong here is done by the one violating the privacy of others without regard to its import or impact. It's decidedly messed up that that should need to be pointed out, but throughout this thread it's evident that that fact isn't obvious to nearly as many as it should be.
The idea that this happens anywhere, much less is happening in a widespread way to a large group of victims, is, as I said, a cultural problem, and probably a larger problem than the invasion of privacy itself, as bad as that invasion of privacy is. If you yourself do that, or would, shame on you.
Now. "Looking at it another way" and considering the existence of similar videos made with actors:
BEFORE: Undesired video release is not evidence of wrongdoing by subject . Jerks who "shame" subject are a plague on society.
AFTER YOUR INSIGHT: Undesired video release is not evidence of wrongdoing by subject . Jerks who "shame" subject are a plague on society.
That is how the society in question works, yes. That's why I point out that that's a problem.
It's how society works in many cultures, but it is not how societies must work as a rule. If compassion and empathy are considered more important than they currently are in such cultures, the problem will be largely remedied.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 25 2018, @06:49AM
> Jerks who "shame" subject are a plague on society.
Thanks for putting it well.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @01:48AM (10 children)
Should you get a scarlet letter even if you did get paid to change clothes in front of a camera?
How can anyone abandon a friend for making a product most of us consume?
(Score: 3, Touché) by takyon on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:02AM (9 children)
Don't worry, millennials will change these harmful perceptions of porn work and break the stigma. After all, sex work will end up being the career of choice for millennials and their descendants after many jobs are automated right out of existence. #NewNormal
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:31AM (1 child)
Naah, millennials will fap to Miku [wikipedia.org] porn.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday October 23 2018, @03:04AM
Poor millennials will fap to Miku with their Oculus Fapbooks. The upper crust millennials (atrophied "middle class") will be able to afford street whores, all of whom will be cosplayers. It will help that supply will wildly exceed demand. The richest millennials will engage in hedonistic pleasures and extreme sexual torture with their personal harems of millennial debt slaves.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:39AM (6 children)
Nope. Sex bots will leave almost no room for sex workers.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:56AM (5 children)
There might be a market for disposable sex slaves for the rich. Mistreating humans and making them cry is so much more fun than breaking a robot. A 0.1 percenter could lay waste to hundreds of women and/or men (and children?), teasing them with offers of becoming a live-in concubine before throwing them back out onto the street where they will shoot up super-heroin and beg for scraps.
If you are right, I guess that leaves gladiatorial combat and experimental medical subjects. A secure digital streaming service could be able to relay live video to customers across the planet, with gambling done with cryptocurrencies. And there's a nearly infinite amount of drug combinations that could be tested out on "willing" participants.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @05:10AM (2 children)
I think we have discovered the identity of our my mysterious troll ;)
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday October 23 2018, @05:46AM (1 child)
Nah, no trolling here. It's just the future we're all barreling into at full speed.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @09:29AM
Well perhaps but it did remind me of the sicko troll fantasies that get posted here from time to time hence the comment. No sure if this is a whoosh or I was going off in too much of a tangent...
(Score: 2) by tibman on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:47PM (1 child)
I also really liked Altered Carbon : P
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday October 23 2018, @07:15PM
I've been saying variations on the same thing for years before that aired. But Altered Carbon does illustrate the point nicely, even if the premise requires a "black swan", namely the "stacks" (mind uploading). Maybe mind uploading can work in that way, but it seems like it would require many decades of development.
The idea that we can continue to create enough new kinds of jobs in the face of rampant automation is laughable. Maybe automation won't wipe out every driver (armored cars, luxury chauffeurs), or every food service job (you could keep one or two employees at your McDonald's, and teppanyaki chefs could be considered performers, etc.). But it will eventually eliminate enough low-skilled positions to cause major problems. We could provide make-work government jobs or universal basic income in response, but I still see many people turning to sex work, and perhaps drug dealing if we still have a Drug War on (I think it will be ended... giving a junkie their government allowance of heroin allows you to keep tabs on them).
Of course, sex workers will also be competing with automated sex bots, VR, etc. But a human sex worker (or slave) could be considered a novelty, like ice cream. As human labor becomes devalued, so will human lives. Perhaps income inequality will continue to increase, as the rich can just offshore their assets in response to tax threats (gotta pay for that UBI somehow). The rich will continue to support a lot of jobs, but some of them will be degrading. If you are worth almost nothing and there are many people who can take your place, you will be willing to do almost anything.
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