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Mozilla is going to sell VPN subscriptions within Firefox
Beginning October 24th, the ad will show for select US-based Firefox users who are running the latest version — Firefox 62 — on desktop. If eligible and browsing on an unsecured network, you'll be shown an ad in the top right corner of your Firefox window that prompts you to click through to a sign up page.
Mozilla is offering ProtonVPN's services for $10 a month, which is actually $2 more than if you signed up for the same package directly through ProtonVPN. But, the majority of the revenue from ProtonVPN subscriptions that are processed through Mozilla will go directly to Mozilla. Both companies are banking that people will have good will about paying a little more in order to support their "shared goal of making the internet a safer place."
Also at ZDNet.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:59AM (8 children)
Try Waterfox.
(Score: 1) by Chromium_One on Tuesday October 23 2018, @06:08AM (6 children)
You do realize Waterfox is using pre-Quantum versions of FF as a base, right?
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by Marand on Tuesday October 23 2018, @06:56AM (3 children)
That's a feature, not a bug; the addons that made Firefox actually worth using still function in Waterfox. Extensions like "It's All Text!", Ubiquity, tab groups, and tree-style tab were the only reason Firefox remained my primary browser over the years, and with post-Quantum Firefox, they (and others) are either completely dead or functionally neutered.
If I wanted to use Chrome and Chrome extensions, I'd fucking use Chrome. So, goodbye Firefox, hello Waterfox.
(Score: 1) by Chromium_One on Tuesday October 23 2018, @07:56AM (2 children)
The argument that addons are not available for the new Quantum builds is far less persuasive now than it was a few months ago.
That said, the answer given (Waterfox) is in direct opposition to what the prior posted asked for. It does not meet stated requirements.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by Marand on Tuesday October 23 2018, @09:43AM (1 child)
Maybe for you, but Ubiquity, Tab Groups, and Tree Style Tab are especially important to me, and neither Chrome nor FF Quantum have been able to provide sufficiently useful versions of any of them. I've looked, I've tried, and there's just nothing suitable, because Chrome-style extensions don't have enough control over the browser. For example, every TST-wannabe for Chrome has been a complete disappointment, and the Quantum update/port/remake/whatever for FF isn't yet in a suitable state. Tab groups are similarly gimped by the WebExtension restrictions, though Ubiquity may have some hope (though unlikely to happen any time soon, considering it's a Mozilla experiment that's barely kept functioning by one person.)
True, but sometimes stated requirements aren't actually what the person needs. AKA the XY Problem [wikipedia.org]. Waterfox doesn't use Quantum, but it DOES use Electrolysis to separate UI and page content processes, which still greatly improves UI and addon responsiveness. Pale Moon still doesn't use either AFAIK, which means it's possible the AC is trying to ask for a more responsive fork of FF than Pale Moon, but isn't aware that FF (fork) responsiveness can be improved even without Quantum.
It's also worth noting that Waterfox has not yet taken an opinionated stance on extensions like NoScript, which is a commonly cited reason for not choosing Pale Moon as a Firefox alternative. The creator of the fork has specifically stated that Waterfox is "aiming for a more technical crowd", so things like NoScript and a more powerful extensions system should be safe for a while, at least.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Chromium_One on Tuesday October 23 2018, @07:19PM
Good points. Glad I'm not dependent on too many plugins. As for performance, I've found a notable difference between Waterfox 56 and FF 62. Most of the time it's not much, but the little bit of extra lag here and there would annoy me if for some reason I had to go back to Waterfox now. Also, would be helpful if prior poster had stated why they require Quantum builds.
For Pale Moon, uh, at a first glance, the entire controversy looks like nothing more than ego and stupidity. Couple of addons are flagged by PM to pop up warnings about compatibility, yet continue to function. Everyone involved then loses their minds and when challenged, doubles down on whatever stance they've chosen.
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday October 23 2018, @08:55AM (1 child)
at the moment I see no compatibility problems with either waterfox or seamonkey. If you do go bother the fucking webmaster. The web becomes proprietary if THEY want to, but you can always fight back a little.
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(Score: 2, Troll) by FatPhil on Tuesday October 23 2018, @03:45PM
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(Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:48PM
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