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posted by martyb on Monday October 29 2018, @08:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the social-commentary-on-social-media dept.

The social network gab.com is apparently going down on Monday, October 29th at 09:00 ET. Their ISP has terminated their services, ostensibly because Robert Bowers, the Pittsburgh mass shooting suspect, had made offensive posts on Gab.

To get this out of the way: I have mixed feelings about Gab, more specifically, about the founders. However, the idea that some social network somewhere should refuse to censor anything that is not outright illegal? This is good. Social media has become the modern "market square", and free speech should be guaranteed, even if the platforms are technically private.

If you want free speech, you apparently don't want to be in the U.S.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by bradley13 on Monday October 29 2018, @09:41AM (9 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Monday October 29 2018, @09:41AM (#754987) Homepage Journal

    Joylent, based in California. It seems stupid for Gab to use a US-based provider, much less one in California.

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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 29 2018, @10:33AM (6 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 29 2018, @10:33AM (#755001) Journal

    In Gab's defense, they're Americans. Not only are they Americans, but they are American's whose voices are on the list to be silenced. Gab exists because the media has attempted to silence them, but they are still Americans. They naively believed that if they could escape the corporate bullshit censorship at Facefook and Twitstorm, they would be alright.

    We can probably presume that they'll take this lesson to heart, and find a host in Russia or someplace outside the US. Chances are slim they'll find a host in the US after this. Unless, or course, they just fold. They wouldn't be the first to fold and be forgotten.

    But, as pointed out earlier in this discussion, the individuals will go underground. I2P, TOR, and any other darkweb places they can think of. And, some will join ranks with Stormfront, where their views are welcome. Where is Stormfront hosted? I've never even looked to see . . .

    $ whois stormfront.net
          Domain Name: STORMFRONT.NET
          Registry Domain ID: 697397_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
          Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.uniregistrar.com
          Registrar URL: http://www.uniregistrar.com [uniregistrar.com]
          Updated Date: 2018-07-22T00:57:10Z
          Creation Date: 1997-07-14T04:00:00Z
          Registry Expiry Date: 2019-07-13T04:00:00Z
          Registrar: Uniregistrar Corp
          Registrar IANA ID: 1659
          Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@uniregistry.com
          Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.3457698347
          Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited [icann.org]
          Name Server: NS1.UNIREGISTRY-DNS.COM
          Name Server: NS1.UNIREGISTRY-DNS.NET
          Name Server: NS2.UNIREGISTRY-DNS.COM
          Name Server: NS2.UNIREGISTRY-DNS.NET
          DNSSEC: unsigned

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @10:42AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @10:42AM (#755010)

      They wouldn't be the first to fold and be forgotten.

      Boo-bloody-hoo 🎻🎶

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @10:47AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @10:47AM (#755017)

      Correction: They are not Americans. Some of them may be physical residents, but they are no Americans.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 29 2018, @10:52AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 29 2018, @10:52AM (#755022) Journal

        citation needed

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @01:48PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @01:48PM (#755079)

        No True Scotsman [yourlogicalfallacyis.com]
        Honestly, I rarely see it stated so plainly; usually when people display their inability to think they're at least not quite as obvious about it.

        • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @07:25PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @07:25PM (#755289)

          git trulled biatch

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by J053 on Monday October 29 2018, @08:36PM

      by J053 (3532) <dakineNO@SPAMshangri-la.cx> on Monday October 29 2018, @08:36PM (#755339) Homepage

      $ dig stormfront.net

      ; > DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-61.el7 > stormfront.net
      ;; global options: +cmd
      ;; Got answer:
      ;; ->>HEADER ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 27

      ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
      ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
      ;; QUESTION SECTION:
      ;stormfront.net. IN A

      ;; ANSWER SECTION:
      stormfront.net. 299 IN A 198.72.116.209

      % whois 198.72.116.209
      [Querying whois.arin.net]
      [whois.arin.net]

      # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
      # available at: " rel="url2html-7213">https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html
      #
      # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at
      # " rel="url2html-7213">https://www.arin.net/resources/whois_reporting/index.html
      #
      # Copyright 1997-2018, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.
      #



      # start

      NetRange: 198.72.116.192 - 198.72.116.223
      CIDR: 198.72.116.192/27
      NetName: IWEB-NE-T118-01SH
      NetHandle: NET-198-72-116-192-1
      Parent: IWEB-BLK-09 (NET-198-72-96-0-1)
      NetType: Reassigned
      OriginAS: AS32613
      Customer: iWeb Dedicated NE (C03216883)
      RegDate: 2012-11-27
      Updated: 2012-11-27
      Ref: " rel="url2html-7213">https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/198.72.116.192


      CustName: iWeb Dedicated NE
      Address: 7207 boulevard Newman
      City: LaSalle
      StateProv: QC
      PostalCode: H8N 2K3
      Country: CA
      RegDate: 2012-11-27
      Updated: 2012-11-27
      Ref: " rel="url2html-7213">https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/C03216883

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @10:45AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @10:45AM (#755012)

    It seems stupid for Gab to use a US-based provider, much less one in California.

    Ja! Wenn sie nur einen in Österreich oder Bayern finden könnten! Sieg Heil, bradley13!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @09:30PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @09:30PM (#755360)

    Also please note that Joylent is owned by Samsung.

    So the US taxpayers pay for a military that protects South Korea, where Samsung is, so that Samsung's subsidiary can turn around and attack the freedom of speech of Americans. How very nice of them.