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posted by CoolHand on Monday October 29 2018, @02:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the be-excellent-to-each-other dept.

GNU Kind Communication Guidelines

Lest you think this is yet another CoC, the guidelines assure you that they are not a CoC.

Announcing the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines

The GNU Kind Communication Guidelines, initial version, have been published in https://gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html. On behalf of the GNU Project, I ask all GNU contributors to make their best efforts to follow these guidelines in GNU Project discuaaions[sic].

[ . . . ] The difference between kind communication guidelines and a code of conduct is a matter of the basic overall approach.

A code of conduct states rules, with punishments for anyone that violates them.

[...] The idea of the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines is to start guiding people towards kinder communication at a point well before one would even think of saying, "You are breaking the rules." The way we do this, rather than ordering people to be kind or else, is try to help people learn to make their communication more kind.

[ . . . . ] I disagree with making "diversity" a goal. If the developers in a specific free software project do not include demographic D, I don't think that the lack of them as a problem that requires action

The best way to avoid conflict and encourage diversity is to force everyone to voluntarily think alike.


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 29 2018, @05:59PM (14 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 29 2018, @05:59PM (#755232) Journal

    Well - maybe we can agree that "it's okay to be white" is stupid. I don't have to apologize, or ask anyone's approval for being mostly white. I am what I am, and anyone who doesn't like it can just fuck off. Do any soylentils feel compelled to apologize for being Black, Indian, Puerto Rican, Catholic, or whatever? If so - I kinda feel sorry for you. Maybe I'll offer a word of condolence after I've laughed my ass off.

    What the progressives fail to understand is, the more shit that is stirred up against white people, the more pressure there is on those white people to move closer to the white supremacy assholes. Look at the history of Jews, in Europe. Why did the Jews dwell in Jewish ghettos, almost exclusively? Because they were PUSHED into the ghettos. The ghettos were the only place where a Jew might find any support, if/when he needed support.

    At the same time, and prior to, the European ghettos, the Jews didn't feel especially compelled to recreate Israel. Only when the pogroms became unbearable, only after the Nazis attempted to exterminate them, did the Jews find the will, along with the backing, to take back Israel.

    If you won't support or help a white guy when he needs it, how can you pretend surprise that white guys go to other white guys for help?

    Are you going to condemn black people who have relied on other black people throughout American history? Maybe you're going to justify the Tulsa riots? The blacks deserved what they got, for making each other wealthy?

    Keep the pressure up, man. Eventually, it will blow up in your face.

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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @06:21PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @06:21PM (#755241)

    "I don't have to apologize, or ask anyone's approval for being mostly white."

    I haven't heard/seen a single person say you have to apologize. More stupid whinging about things that aren't happening. The real point wooshed over your head so fast you must have some sort of mental schizophrenia brewing around in that noggin which prevents you from comprehending very specific points. Probably because your mental state would collapse if you had to address the various paradoxes you try and inhabit.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @06:28PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @06:28PM (#755247)

      "Forgive me for being white. Please, take my spot instead."

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @06:13AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @06:13AM (#755518)

        >> "Forgive me for being white. Please, take my spot instead."

        Let's be honest... How many affirmative action proponents -- who are not a member of a group given preferential treatment -- have actually ever given up their own spot to make room for a diversity hire?

        With recent evens on the topic of affirmative action: A more apt statement is: [npr.org]

        "Fuck those other whites and asians -- I got mine. Please, take their spots instead."

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 29 2018, @06:44PM (3 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 29 2018, @06:44PM (#755260) Journal

      Since you're so smart - you should elaborate. Really, all you've done here is to make some empty rhetorical remarks.

      Is affirmative action racist, or is it not? Is all this diversity bullshit racist, or is it not? Every bit of it is intentionally designed to hold down a white person, while some OTHER person walks on his back. "Well, Son, you could have gone to college, but there were too many not-white people who wanted your spot." "Johnson, you've been with the company for 35 years, and you deserve a big promotion. But, affirmative action says we have to put Jennifer in that spot, because she's gay and female." "We lost the contract. The government awarded the contract to some company I've never heard of, because they have a female CEO, two Blacks on the Board of Directors, and they employ more than 70% minorities."

      None of that makes sense, unless you accept racism and sexism.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @08:59PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @08:59PM (#755352)

        Well since you're such a moron who can't bother to learn about the things you whinge whinge WHIIIINGE on about

        "For federal contractors and subcontractors, affirmative action must be taken by covered employers to recruit and advance qualified minorities, women, persons with disabilities, and covered veterans. Affirmative actions include training programs, outreach efforts, and other positive steps. These procedures should be incorporated into the company’s written personnel policies. Employers with written affirmative action programs must implement them, keep them on file and update them annually."

        Is it prejudiced? Obviously, by definition.

        The real question here, are you willing to fix the systemic prejudice against the groups named above?

        I don't like such policies myself, but fixing systemic prejudice is not a simple task.

        Your complaining is the epitome of 1st world white people problems. You grew up ignoring the cries of minorities and women, but now that it tangentially affects your preferred "in group" you suddenly care and make a stink all the fucking time. I'd care more about your feelings if you weren't aligned with the group of people who promote such divisions and hide behind double talk and outright lies.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @10:35PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @10:35PM (#755390)

          I reject your notion that there is "systemic prejudice'.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @11:40PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @11:40PM (#755426)

            How very wight of you!

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by choose another one on Monday October 29 2018, @06:37PM (2 children)

    by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 29 2018, @06:37PM (#755253)

    At the same time, and prior to, the European ghettos, the Jews didn't feel especially compelled to recreate Israel. Only when the pogroms became unbearable, only after the Nazis attempted to exterminate them, did the Jews find the will, along with the backing, to take back Israel.

    Balfour declaration - 1917
    Formation of Nazi party - 1920

    Clearly _some_ Jews (and powerful supporters thereof) felt compelled to recreate Israel way before the Nazis attempted extermination.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 29 2018, @06:47PM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 29 2018, @06:47PM (#755264) Journal

      Yes, Balfour 1917. And, in fact, there were rabble rousers in Israel prior to WW2 stirring the pot. My statement stands - there was little push, and little support for Israel, until WW2. WW2 opened the floodgates.

      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Monday October 29 2018, @11:52PM

        by Bot (3902) on Monday October 29 2018, @11:52PM (#755431) Journal

        First zionist congress, 1897...

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by jmorris on Monday October 29 2018, @07:18PM (3 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Monday October 29 2018, @07:18PM (#755287)

    "it's okay to be white"

    That one is going down as one of the the "greatest hits" of the chans. It is truly perfect as propaganda. For those who do not know there are a few rules for using IOTBW;

    1. Print it on a sheet of plain white paper in the approved typeface, Martel Sans ExtraLight

    This turns the statement into a whisper.

    2. Put NOTHING else on the paper. No links, no mark for any organization sponsoring the antic, etc. The viewer must be forced to confront those five words in total isolation, free from the out of dismissing it because of an objectionable group identified on the flyer. They must then answer the question implied, "Is it OK to be White?"

    They will get their answer when the authorities take the flyer's existence as a "Hate Crime" and seek to identify the perp who placed it for punishment. It is indeed a crime in all of the West now to speak those works, to print those words and to the greatest extent they can enforce it, to think those words. There are in face entire university departments dedicated to the notion that Whiteness is the largest single problem facing the planet and the elimination of Whiteness the single great quest of there lifetime.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @11:43PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @11:43PM (#755428)

      And how very wight of you, too!!

    • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Saturday November 03 2018, @03:46AM (1 child)

      by jmorris (4844) on Saturday November 03 2018, @03:46AM (#757187)

      Just a followup link from Drudge Report. I'm sure many can't believe such a thing would be hate speech. Behold, in TEXAS:

      'It’s Okay To Be White’ Signs Pop Up In Fort Worth Neighborhood

      Yes, police are investigating. And note the photo, the exact thing I described right down to the typeface.

      • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Saturday November 03 2018, @03:49AM

        by jmorris (4844) on Saturday November 03 2018, @03:49AM (#757188)

        Reposting because I fudged up the link....

        Just a followup link from Drudge Report. I'm sure many can't believe such a thing would be hate speech. Behold, in TEXAS:

        'It’s Okay To Be White’ Signs Pop Up In Fort Worth Neighborhood [cbslocal.com]

        Yes, police are investigating. And note the photo, the exact thing I described right down to the typeface.