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posted by chromas on Monday October 29 2018, @03:51PM   Printer-friendly
from the you-mean-besides-trees? dept.

Silicon Valley's largest accelerator is looking for carbon-sucking technologies — including one that could become 'the largest infrastructure project ever'

Earlier this week, Y Combinator, which has backed companies like Airbnb and Reddit, put out a request for startups working on technology that can remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

"It's time to invest and avidly pursue a new wave of technological solutions to this problem — including those that are risky, unproven, even unlikely to work," Y Combinator's website says.

Y Combinator is looking for startups working on four approaches that they acknowledge "straddle the border between very difficult to science fiction" — genetically engineering phytoplankton to turn CO2 into a storage-ready form of carbon, speeding up a natural process in which rocks react with CO2, creating cell-free enzymes that can process carbon, and flooding Earth's deserts to create oases.

Sam Altman, the president of Y Combinator, acknowledged that these ideas are "moonshots," but said that he wants to take an expansive approach to the issue.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Thexalon on Monday October 29 2018, @04:09PM (10 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Monday October 29 2018, @04:09PM (#755161)

    I have a system for completely organic and sustainable solar-powered carbon sequestration, available at an extremely low cost of under $0.10 per unit. They can be installed in a wide variety of locations all around the globe. This system is already in use across vast swaths of the US, Canada, Europe, and numerous other regions worldwide, too, so it's very proven technology.

    OK, OK, I'm talking about trees.

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  • (Score: 2) by Snow on Monday October 29 2018, @04:18PM (5 children)

    by Snow (1601) on Monday October 29 2018, @04:18PM (#755165) Journal

    Trees can die or catch fire and release that CO2 back into the air.

    I do wonder about large scale tree farms where the trees are harvested and then buried in a deep, sealed pit.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Monday October 29 2018, @04:31PM (1 child)

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Monday October 29 2018, @04:31PM (#755176) Journal

      Just what I was thinking. Growing plants is the easy part. Happens naturally all the time. The problem is stopping the vegetation from returning all that carbon to the air when it burns or rots.

      As to dumping dead vegetation into the ground (perhaps coal mines would be appropriate?) the energy and effort needed to gather, transport and store the vegetation is the big hurdle. Really that sort of thing should be a last resort. I understand swamps and bogs are great at sequestering carbon. But maybe we're already past the point where natural sinks can handle it and we should employ active measures such as burying trees.

      Wonder how much could be saved by cutting back on the lawn mowing? Let people let their yards grow lots more between mowings.

      • (Score: 1) by Michael on Monday October 29 2018, @08:24PM

        by Michael (7157) on Monday October 29 2018, @08:24PM (#755332)

        Burning off the hydrogen-rich volatiles to leave charcoal would give you a bury-able substance which doesn't decay for centuries. It's also a phenomenal soil amendment for holding water and nutrients, which is likely to give extra carbon capture by increasing biomass in/on soil. Even in a relatively small and poorly insulated system, wood produces more combustable volatiles than are required to heat it to charcoal forming temperature. (A coffee can plastered with perlite and a wood gas burner directed back

        Could probably sell charcoal packaged for gardeners and farmers. Make it out of wood, twigs, straw, husks, hulls, shells, cobs, chaff, pretty much anything dry and brownish.

        Far as lawn mowing, seems like the carbon content should havea bit more than linear relationship to length. Older stalks get more woody, especially just before seeds form. Let it get that long and you'd create opportunity for extra wildlife, which probably should count towards the carbon content of an area.

    • (Score: 2) by captain_nifty on Monday October 29 2018, @06:16PM (1 child)

      by captain_nifty (4252) on Monday October 29 2018, @06:16PM (#755240)

      You missed a couple steps, Profit, being the most important.

      1. Grow Trees
      2. Make stuff out of trees
      3. Sell wood Products
      3a. Profit!
      4. Collect old used goods and charge the customer for disposal
      4a. Profit!
      5. Bury wood deep underground

      Semi serious question: Do landfills generate Carbon Credits?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @07:09PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @07:09PM (#755279)

        You forgot 5a,b,c; bribe legislators and get paid for burying wood too.

    • (Score: 1) by DECbot on Monday October 29 2018, @07:12PM

      by DECbot (832) on Monday October 29 2018, @07:12PM (#755281) Journal

      Here's two solutions you haven't considered:

      1. Launch the trees into space. Seriously, use a rocket and put the carbon in orbit. What can go wrong? Give somebody like Musk the responsibility to put all the trees into space. Hand wave away all the CO2 the rocket produces because the carbon the trees sequestered is safely in orbit (for now).
      2. Deliberate volcanic eruptions. They spew gargantuan amounts of ash and rock useful for burying forests. Just ignore the CO2 they produce. Since it's not man made, it's permissible.
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  • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Monday October 29 2018, @05:37PM (3 children)

    by Sulla (5173) on Monday October 29 2018, @05:37PM (#755220) Journal

    Unfortunately when government gets involved that $0.10 tree is going to several thousand per tree, or at least this is the case for my local municipality.

    1. You need to find a proposed location for the tree
    2. You need to have a locator go out and make sure there are no ground wires or pipes that are going to be in the way as the tree grows
    3. Pay a horticulturalist to assess the type of trees that are best suited for this area
    4. Have a union crew come out and dig the hole and plant the tree
    5. Long-term maintenance of the tree
    6. Insurance so that if it dies randomly the company that sold you the tree has to provide another.

    I wish I were kidding

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    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Monday October 29 2018, @06:34PM (2 children)

      by acid andy (1683) on Monday October 29 2018, @06:34PM (#755252) Homepage Journal

      If what you say accurately reflects the norm, then it's probably a rare case where deregulation actually makes a lot of sense. There should still be environmental protections if it's an existing natural habitat, but on brownfield any trees are better than no trees with the exception of some of the more invasive non-native species.

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      • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Monday October 29 2018, @07:03PM (1 child)

        by Sulla (5173) on Monday October 29 2018, @07:03PM (#755276) Journal

        I actually don't think this is a case where deregulation helps, and this is not the process for everyone who might want to install a tree, just if the muni tries to do it. Sorry for lack of clarity.

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        • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Monday October 29 2018, @08:12PM

          by acid andy (1683) on Monday October 29 2018, @08:12PM (#755323) Homepage Journal

          Apology accepted :)

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