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posted by chromas on Monday October 29 2018, @05:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the if-it-walk-like-a-duck dept.

More Evidence Identifies China as The Source of Mysterious Ozone-Destroying Emissions

For years, a mystery puzzled environmental scientists. The world had banned the use of many ozone-depleting compounds in 2010. So why were global emission levels [DOI: 10.1038/s41586-018-0106-2] [DX] still so high?

The picture started to clear up in June. That's when The New York Times published an investigation into the issue. China, the paper claimed, was to blame for these mystery emissions. Now it turns out the paper was probably right to point a finger.

In a paper [open, DOI: 10.1029/2018GL079500] [DX] published recently in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, an international team of researchers confirms that eastern China is the source of at least half of the 40,000 tonnes of carbon tetrachloride emissions currently entering the atmosphere each year. They figured this out using a combination of ground-based and airborne atmospheric concentration data from near the Korean peninsula.

Previously: Someone, Somewhere, is Making a Banned Chemical that Destroys the Ozone Layer
Illegal Chinese Refrigerator Factories Are Selling Banned CFCs


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  • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Monday October 29 2018, @06:31PM (8 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 29 2018, @06:31PM (#755249) Journal

    Man, who'd have guessed lax environmental protections and totalitarian social controls go together?

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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Sulla on Monday October 29 2018, @06:54PM (7 children)

    by Sulla (5173) on Monday October 29 2018, @06:54PM (#755269) Journal

    A wave of research studies that began in the 1990s is focusing on the possible connection between the Nazi movement and today's green movement. In 1935, two years after the Nazis rose to power, the German government passed a Reich law for the protection of the natural environment, a law whose scope was unprecedented at the time and whose goal was to protect and care for the homeland's natural environment. The law included regulations for the protection of flora and fauna, as well as for the conservation of unique natural phenomena of scientific importance and of aesthetic and cultural value. These natural phenomena included Germany's celebrated forests, which were considered a central component of the German national identity.

    The law also established procedures for the definition of nature reserves and authorized the state to expropriate land for the sake of such reserves without providing any compensation to the owners of the land. Violators of this law were given stiff penalties. In addition, attempts were made to formulate laws for the prevention of air pollution. The Reich's green laws - although this might sound sarcastic - forbade the slaughtering of animals that had not been previously anaesthetized and fixed limits on experiments on animals. Within the context of the Reich's laws for the protection of the natural environment, organic agriculture, which encouraged the use of manual plowshares in small farms instead of heavy machinery, was advanced.

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/of-nazis-and-other-nature-lovers-1.5236743 [haaretz.com]
    If you disagree with the source, you're and anti-Semite

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Monday October 29 2018, @07:40PM (5 children)

      by edIII (791) on Monday October 29 2018, @07:40PM (#755301)

      Ahhhh, so now the Climate Change supporters are Nazi's? Man, some of you deniers are just plain fucking nuts. First, it's the science is corrupt (which is partially true), now it's that the people behind it are pushing a fucking Nazi agenda from the early 1930's? I can believe that some of it is related to people trying to control other people, but to completely deny what is happening with our environment is downright fucking stupid. Trying to add conspiracy theories to it ensure that will we NEVER believe each other again, nor we will ever be united, is also ensuring our destruction. Which is genuinely sad. Humans are entirely undeserving of this planet, and if God does exist, I pray for the next flood.

      On another note, may I have some of what you are smoking? It seems strong as fuck :)

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      • (Score: 2, Informative) by Sulla on Monday October 29 2018, @07:51PM (2 children)

        by Sulla (5173) on Monday October 29 2018, @07:51PM (#755308) Journal

        All the above post was intended to do was show that reducing environmental policies has nothing to do with a government being fascist, as fascists governments can also be pro-environment. I realized that the most likely response I would get was someone calling me a Nazi, so I used an Israeli link as support because then calling me a Nazi for trusting Israelis would be pointless.

        To me there is no connection between environmentalism and fascism in either direction. Because saying there is is just as stupid as saying there isn't.

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        • (Score: 2) by edIII on Tuesday October 30 2018, @01:09AM

          by edIII (791) on Tuesday October 30 2018, @01:09AM (#755455)

          Fascism -

          n. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

          Environmentalism -

          n. Advocacy for or work toward protecting the natural environment from destruction or pollution.

          Sulla -

          To me there is no connection between environmentalism and fascism in either direction. Because saying there is is just as stupid as saying there isn't. (bold for emphasis)

          How is just as stupid to state no connection between the two, as it is to state there is a connection between the two? That statement makes no sense. One does not necessarily imply the other. Those stringent socioeconomic controls will be to the benefit of the corrupt few at the top, that dictators reward for their political support, not necessarily environmental benefits. Would environmental regulations act as controls that could be abused with totalitarian agendas? Sure. That still does not make environmental regulations intrinsically Fascist. That will entirely depend upon the dictator and the feasibility of enacting such controls, which could raise costs for those he/she needs political support from. So basically, unless Hitler engages in a Final Solution campaign against the "titans of industry", or strong-arms the shit out of them, he would have just as hard of a time today pushing environmental regulations. Again, why? How does controlling the environment, in a way to support and nurture it, further the goals of a Fascist government and those in power? Why is it so obvious that Fascism leads to Environmentalism?

          Which brings us to dictator Trump. He's not an environmentalist, while clearly he is a belligerent, racist, nationalist, if not outright Fascist. If there were an actual connection between tyranny, Fascism, and environmentalism, then why has Trump disarmed, and all the but shut down, the EPA?

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @10:56AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @10:56AM (#755564)

          I used an Israeli link as support because then calling me a Nazi for trusting Israelis would be pointless.

          Except that today Israel is pretty much a Nazi state. They basically took Mein Kampf and implemented it. Except their "free land in the East" was Palestine.

      • (Score: -1) by fakefuck39 on Monday October 29 2018, @08:52PM

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday October 29 2018, @08:52PM (#755346)

        damn you are one dumb motherfucker

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday October 29 2018, @10:00PM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 29 2018, @10:00PM (#755373) Journal

        ...also ensuring our destruction

        To quote an esteemed mad genius resident on S/N, you say it like it's a bad thing.

        (grin)

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @12:34AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @12:34AM (#755439)

      Ah. This is also proof that vegetarians are Literal Hitler!

      I'm certain no fallacies have been committed in reaching these conclusions!

      But wait... I sense a problem! Hitler persecuted the homosexuals and the Communist Party, which was working with the Communist International (a.k.a. Third International) at that time. Therefore, persecution of homosexuals and derivatives of the of the Third International, such as the Fourth International (a.k.a. wswswswswsws), is also Literal Hitler!!!