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posted by chromas on Monday October 29 2018, @05:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the if-it-walk-like-a-duck dept.

More Evidence Identifies China as The Source of Mysterious Ozone-Destroying Emissions

For years, a mystery puzzled environmental scientists. The world had banned the use of many ozone-depleting compounds in 2010. So why were global emission levels [DOI: 10.1038/s41586-018-0106-2] [DX] still so high?

The picture started to clear up in June. That's when The New York Times published an investigation into the issue. China, the paper claimed, was to blame for these mystery emissions. Now it turns out the paper was probably right to point a finger.

In a paper [open, DOI: 10.1029/2018GL079500] [DX] published recently in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, an international team of researchers confirms that eastern China is the source of at least half of the 40,000 tonnes of carbon tetrachloride emissions currently entering the atmosphere each year. They figured this out using a combination of ground-based and airborne atmospheric concentration data from near the Korean peninsula.

Previously: Someone, Somewhere, is Making a Banned Chemical that Destroys the Ozone Layer
Illegal Chinese Refrigerator Factories Are Selling Banned CFCs


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Monday October 29 2018, @07:31PM (14 children)

    by bzipitidoo (4388) on Monday October 29 2018, @07:31PM (#755293) Journal

    Placing a stupid and hateful troll in the White House is the worst act of national self-hatred I've ever seen. If, that is, that's what the voters really chose. There are a lot of questions about possible Russian interference that are still largely uninvestigated. It's weird how all sorts of rules that used to matter, such as the emoluments clause, now no longer matter.

    I understand many voters hoped to shake things up, hoped the ultimate result would be a better nation, and didn't trust Hillary not to continue the status quo of gradually destroying the middle class. But voting for a troll is a hell of a way to go about it.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @07:48PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @07:48PM (#755304)

    Working out pretty good so far.

    Strong economy means more people can afford to buy their preference, this benefits clean energy
    Reduction of troop levels and military action in Syria, turning what President Obama said was a generational conflict into almost nothing
    Things are going significantly better now with North Korea than they were in 2016
    Europe is increasing its military spending to protect against possible Russian aggression
    Stepped up our presence in the Pacific to protect Taiwan/Philippines/Vietnam/etc from Chinese expansion and annexation
    New trade deal that benefits the United States and Mexico
    You can tell thing aren't looking good for China when they have to run propaganda in US newspapers

    If you check out the local newspapers in Taiwan/Vietnam/Japan/South Korea/Anywhere that isn't the west they are pretty pleased with him.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @12:50AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @12:50AM (#755444)

      You forget the best: no oreo in the White House.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @03:03AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @03:03AM (#755490)

        What??!! You're telling me that we're paying for Trump to have special all-white Oreos made for him? Quick call the congressional budget office.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @01:01AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @01:01AM (#755451)

      Strong economy

      Wonder how far the Dow will tumble down tomorrow.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @03:03AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @03:03AM (#755491)

        Me to. Where is the "Prophetic" mod?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @11:12AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @11:12AM (#755569)

      Holy fuck man. Your seem to have a beautiful summary of Fox News propaganda. Goebbels would be proud.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Freeman on Monday October 29 2018, @07:54PM (1 child)

    by Freeman (732) on Monday October 29 2018, @07:54PM (#755311) Journal

    What the Democrats failed to realize, is how toxic Hillary Clinton has become politically. Yes, she was / is a powerful female politician. I have no doubt, she could do the job, I just don't trust her to do the job. Even less so than Trump. Which is saying a whole lot in and of itself. Sure, there are some people who thought he was a great candidate and she was the devil. What the far right wing and the far left wing fail to understand is this. Both Candidates Sucked. They just each sucked less in their own way. I think the biggest thing Trump had going for him, is that he was fairly new to the political scene. Opposed to Hillary who had decades to poison her own voting pool. Then there was the shenanigans with Sanders.

    --
    Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 2) by Pav on Wednesday October 31 2018, @05:03AM

      by Pav (114) on Wednesday October 31 2018, @05:03AM (#755931)

      More and more people (language warning) have this take [youtube.com].

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @08:56PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @08:56PM (#755350)

    a little rebellion now and then is a good thing

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @11:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @11:38PM (#755425)

      and you must destroy the village country to save it

  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by c0lo on Monday October 29 2018, @10:15PM (2 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 29 2018, @10:15PM (#755380) Journal

    Placing a stupid and hateful troll in the White House is the worst act of national self-hatred I've ever seen

    Would you rate the placing of an intelligent but still hateful troll in the White House as less self-hatred?

    (the question above is hypothetical, any resemblance with reality is purely coincidental)

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
    • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Monday October 29 2018, @11:25PM (1 child)

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Monday October 29 2018, @11:25PM (#755418) Journal

      Do you know the Anna Karenina principle?

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday October 30 2018, @01:48AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 30 2018, @01:48AM (#755467) Journal

        Anna Karenina principle

        Interesting, I didn't know it has a name (otherwise it become obvious if one replaces "happiness" with "absolute optimum"; apart from degenerate cases - many choices with the same result/optimum value - there is a single combination of parameter values for which the absolute optimum is attained, all the other combination are sub-optimal in their own way)

        My point though - the one which the modder seems to have missed in spite of my disclaimer:

        • I found that an active stupid is way more dangerous than a passive one - with the latter, at least the stupidity tends to stay out of one's way.
        • On the same line, I was wondering if an intelligent troll isn't actually more damaging than a stupid one - with the latter, one has a good chance to detect the trolling and adjust her/his behaviour. With an intelligent troll, the trolling may be subtle enough to avoid detection.
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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Tuesday October 30 2018, @02:09PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 30 2018, @02:09PM (#755625) Journal

    Placing a stupid and hateful troll in the White House is the worst act of national self-hatred I've ever seen.

    Compared to putting Clinton in? Electing Trump was a standard protest vote. It's silly to portray that as national self-hatred.