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More Evidence Identifies China as The Source of Mysterious Ozone-Destroying Emissions
For years, a mystery puzzled environmental scientists. The world had banned the use of many ozone-depleting compounds in 2010. So why were global emission levels [DOI: 10.1038/s41586-018-0106-2] [DX] still so high?
The picture started to clear up in June. That's when The New York Times published an investigation into the issue. China, the paper claimed, was to blame for these mystery emissions. Now it turns out the paper was probably right to point a finger.
In a paper [open, DOI: 10.1029/2018GL079500] [DX] published recently in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, an international team of researchers confirms that eastern China is the source of at least half of the 40,000 tonnes of carbon tetrachloride emissions currently entering the atmosphere each year. They figured this out using a combination of ground-based and airborne atmospheric concentration data from near the Korean peninsula.
Previously: Someone, Somewhere, is Making a Banned Chemical that Destroys the Ozone Layer
Illegal Chinese Refrigerator Factories Are Selling Banned CFCs
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 29 2018, @11:17PM (13 children)
You're so dumb it makes me sad. You should study less highschool econ and more science. Do you realize that there is only 1 atmosphere on this planet, the one and same whether you're in China or US of fucking A. Have you ever heard about climate change buddy? Do you get TV in your cave? Makes me wonder if you're even serious or just a Russian troll paid to act like a hemorrhoid...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @12:55AM (3 children)
Gotta be some reason he's still posting even though he posts at -1.
Though can't we eliminate Russian troll since wouldn't a Russian troll move to another account as soon as their account started posting at 0, not keep going after it was posting at -1?
I guess that leaves dumbass on the table as a possibility.
(Score: -1) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday October 30 2018, @01:22AM (2 children)
my parents are originally from moscow, and I'm 90% fluent in Russian, so I guess you're right tupoy mudak. "-1"? you have your internet content censored by random people on the internet? literally everyone I know reads at -1, starting w/.in the late 90s. you're on the wrong site buddy. reddit is what you're looking for. here we wave loser hippies who preach peace of mind but can't hold a job, older nerds with managed autism, and a few like me who are mid-life corporate professionals. magic internet points are not relevant to any of those groups. reddit man. go back there - you're annoying and not very entertaining.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @02:29AM (1 child)
*sort* lol
An amusing dumbass at least. But that's cool you're almost fluent in Russian. One thing I regret in life was not learning Dutch from my great-grandma. Great-great-grandma came over to America on the boat. Great-grandma was fluent of course. Grandma was 90% fluent. Mom knew a few words. Me, I wound up studying German nearly to fluency instead because my high school offered it. Was a slacker class to most tho, but I like studying languages and wish I had more time to devote to it. I'd love to learn an African language some time.
(Score: -1) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday October 30 2018, @04:14AM
I have no idea what your first line means - I'm guessing a grammar error. I am "almost" fluent in French too, having lived there for 4 years. I am far from fluent in Korean, Ukrainian, and Spanish. I understand Polish and Romanian but don't speak them. My wife speaks 4. I have also been to ~80 countries, and lived in many. I started in Biochem, switched to Physics with a minor in Calc, and did a year in college for a sound engineer, then another year for computer graphics at one of those "nationally-accredited" expensive ripoff schools you see ads on TV for. The Dutch are a pleasant people who sound like they are talking with food in their mouth. German girls have just the right amount of slutty before approaching euro-trash, I was banging one in Bavaria for a while. Berlin is full of neo-faggots. German is a harsh ugly language that seems to make everything sound like hate speech. If you like Dutch and also like niggers, Afrikaans should be easy for you to pick up. There is a catchy band from Leningrad that sounds a lot like Die Antwoord. You should do the skibbidi challenge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFBTdToRmw [youtube.com]
My family didn't come over on a boat. We took a large plane. Parents being Chem PhDs helps with the means to take a large plane. If you like boats, you should talk to the Mighty Buzztard - he is also into boats. Any other bright off-topic things to say that avoid replying to the content? To a battle of wits, you come unarmed. That's alright - just keep calling people dumbass. 5th grade seems to be where your level of education and insults achieved their lifetime apex.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @01:46AM (8 children)
One of the things you learn in "science" is how big the earth is. You're complaining that someone in a different state farts and it smells in your house. No, we don't really have "1 atmosphere" when it comes to pollution. We have many localized bodies of air, where the heavy pollution particles are generated and settle in the immediate area. It's why you don't want a coal plant near your house, but the one in the neighboring state is fine.
Dumping stuff into the water does travel over oceans to detectable levels. Not to levels that actually do anything, but detectable with precision equipment. Your body is not precision equipment.
Global warming - that's not caused by pollution. Another things we learned in "science" - in the 5th grade, which you should really give another try before going for your GED. Pollution is not greenhouse gasses. Actual pollution reduces global warming by blocking sunlight. Literally thousands of reputable studies - one of the more prominent ones done on airplane exhaust particles on 9/11.
To quote someone - "knowledge is power" - get some. You seem like one of those anti-vaxxer people who read headlines on the puffington post and your facebook and youtube feed, and repeat them. You seem to be some kind of a hipster who reads physics books that don't have any math in them and pretends he knows things. Please stop talking - this is annoying to the adults in the room.
As far as the politics, it would take someone really dumb to think a paid Russian troll is posting to soylent. Someone like you. Someone who does not know how to spell "high school" so he takes a typo from the comment to which he is replying and repeats the misspelling. Someone who does not speak English well. Again, 5th grade seems to be where you stopped with the schoolbooks and started with sensationalist headlines with sources for bored soccermoms for your education.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @02:59AM (5 children)
> You're complaining that someone in a different state farts and it smells in your house. No, we don't really have "1 atmosphere" when it comes to pollution. We have many localized bodies of air, where the heavy pollution particles are generated and settle in the immediate area. It's why you don't want a coal plant near your house, but the one in the neighboring state is fine.
Not so fast -- https://www.csmonitor.com/1984/0621/062135.html [csmonitor.com]
From 1984 (seriously, not a reference to Orwell's book):
I remember when this was a big deal, in NY state our crushed-limestone driveway used to bubble when it rained.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @03:59AM (4 children)
The Christian Science Monitor. Seriously - why are you on this site? This is literally not the forum for you. This is a tiny community. If you are thinking to agitate or piss off people, all you are going to do here is have a small handfull of people laugh at you. Very small. Would your idiot trolling not be more appropriate somewhere where you have an audience >20?
I didn't click the link or read your post.
(Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Tuesday October 30 2018, @01:07PM
I don't know about the present, but the CSM has long had a reputation for accurate and remarkably unbiased journalism. It has nothing beyond the name to do with the Christian Science religion.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @02:04PM
Just went looking for an older reference on acid rain and found that one from The Christian Science Monitor. There are plenty more, but as noted, this paper was highly respected for straight reporting back in the '80s.
Anyway, the point was that coal burning plants in the midwest USA were causing acid rain in the North East and it was to the point that it was damaging forests and many other things. Pollution is not as localized as the earlier poster claimed.
Oh, and I'm not new here, I'm logged in with a user number in the 3 digits, but normally post as AC.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Tuesday October 30 2018, @05:04PM (1 child)
The Christian Science Monitor is an excellent newspaper for objective news. The Christian Science stuff is restricted to one regular article which is clearly labeled as such.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 31 2018, @08:18AM
Yes, idiots who read the CSM think it's an excellent newspaper for objective news. The Christian religion is an excellent guideline for your saving your soul. "How to rape little boys" is an excellent newspaper. Forget the title - they only have one article on what lube to use on the pink asshole of the little one - the rest is objective science on how CFCs cause global warming.
Now the rest of us who read and study actual science - the science with "math and shit" - do not get our science from the CSM. This is why we know that most pollution does not cause global warming and comprehend the basic concept of a particle in the atmosphere blocking sunlight from reaching the earth causing a reduction in temperature. The most famous of such studies was as noted when all the planes were grounded on 9/11, and there was a clear finding that pollution from airplanes reduces global warming. Now back to raping little boys - do you have any sons and where do they practice baseball (asking for a friend)?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 30 2018, @10:31AM (1 child)
Do... do you truly not understand, generally, how CFCs interact with the atmosphere and environment?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 31 2018, @08:07AM
Do you... Truly not understand English?
Idiot: "Have you ever heard about climate change buddy?"
Me: "Things that break down Ozone do go up and destroy ozone - mostly over the poles. Again - not over the US."
Do you... Truly not understand that CFCs don't cause global warming and the pollution actually reduces it because particles block and reflect sunlight?