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on Friday November 02 2018, @04:16PM
from the click-here-to-not-lose-your-rights dept.
from the click-here-to-not-lose-your-rights dept.
If you have a Pixel 3 phone, you should be aware that you can opt out of the built-in binding arbitration agreement. Boing Boing has a screen shot of the new Pixel phone's binding arbitration opt-out form. Pixel phone owners, insofar as they actually own the phone, are given a chance to avoid Google's attempt to get them to sign away your right to sue even if the company hurts, cheats, or kills them.
Earlier on SN: Google Avoids Talking About Android at Pixel 3 Event.
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The New Pixel Phone Has a Bizarre, Obscure "opt-out" Arbitration Waiver
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(Score: 2) by darkfeline on Sunday November 04 2018, @03:22AM (1 child)
Incidentally/ironically, the high financial and time cost of the judicial system is also why arbitration is a better deal for consumers (assuming the arbitration is fair). How many purchasers of consumer products under $5,000 can afford a lawsuit against a large corp? The large corp can eat that cost without a sweat; they're already paying for lawyers.
I wasn't aware of the abuse of arbitration that you mentioned. There are laws governing arbitration clauses, and those clauses can be voided if determined unconscionable/unfair. I'm assuming that US arbitration law doesn't have a huge loophole, but otherwise consumers should actually benefit from arbitration compared to going to the judicial system.
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(Score: 2) by edIII on Monday November 05 2018, @08:42PM
The majority actually. $5,000 is the limit for small claims courts. As long as you are not requesting relief above that amount, it will cost you $75 in Las Vegas, NV to file a small claims lawsuit. They have forms downtown, and even people to help you write them. Small claims is an affordable way to seek justice and relief, and if you know what you are doing, you can really fucking stick it to the megacorps. Those lawyer's they are already paying for need to accompany an executive of the corporation to be present at those court proceedings. Many times the cost of all of that can be damn near the $5,000 limit. Big megacorps will fold simply because they don't want to send the jet down to that county and waste an executive's time.
Small claims courts are interesting.
There are HUGE fucking loopholes in arbitration. Nothing else explains how the credit card companies were using it against consumers that defaulted, then passing it to a single firm, that acted for all sides. Talk about a conflict of interest, but to my knowledge, no state court has ever not upheld one of those arbitration rulings. Meaning, it's corrupt as fuck for the small person.
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