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posted by Fnord666 on Monday November 05 2018, @12:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the just-in-time-for-6G dept.

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Verizon won't speed up 5G buildout despite FCC preempting local fees

Verizon Wireless says it will not move faster on building its 5G cellular network despite a Federal Communications Commission decision that erased $2 billion dollars' worth of fees for the purpose of spurring faster 5G deployment.

The FCC's controversial decision last month angered both large and small municipalities because it limits the amount they can charge carriers for deployment of wireless equipment such as small cells on public rights-of-way. The FCC decision also limits the kinds of aesthetic requirements cities and towns can impose on carrier deployments and forces cities and towns to act on carrier applications within 60 or 90 days.Ajit Pai slams cities and towns as FCC erases $2 billion in local fees

FCC Chairman Ajit Pai justified the decision by saying it would speed up 5G deployment, and he slammed local governments for "extracting as much money as possible in fees from the private sector and forcing companies to navigate a maze of regulatory hurdles in order to deploy wireless infrastructure."

But in an earnings call last week, Verizon CFO Matt Ellis told investors that the FCC decision won't have any effect on the speed of its 5G deployment. Verizon also said that it is reducing overall capital expenditures—despite a variety of FCC decisions, including the net neutrality repeal, that the FCC claimed would increase broadband network investment. (Verizon posted a transcript of the earnings call here.)

An analyst asked Ellis if the FCC order would "change the sort of internal targets you have for the rollout of the small cell and 5G infrastructure and possibly allow you to go a little faster as you look out to 2019 and 2020."

Ellis responded that the FCC decision "doesn't necessarily increase the velocity that we see." Verizon is "going as fast as we can" already, he said.

Also at ExtremeTech


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  • (Score: 4, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 05 2018, @06:42PM (15 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 05 2018, @06:42PM (#758125) Journal

    Oh, get real. The Dems lost last election, because their corruption was exposed, and women resented being told to vote for a uterus. People are disenchanted with the D party. If the D's had allowed Bernie to win the nomination, things would be a whole lot different today. Even if Bernie lost to Trump, the D base would have faith in their party. Don't blame the current state of affairs on the R's. It wasn't even a R who won. He's a RINO. He used the party, just like he uses everyone, and everything. Populism is a bitch, ain't it?

    If Dems lose big time this time around, it's because they fucked over their constituency too badly to be forgiven in just two years.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 05 2018, @07:10PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 05 2018, @07:10PM (#758137)

    Or, now bear with me, election fraud happened yet again in some key voting districts. That doesn't change your point about the DNC and Sanders, they definitely lost a lot of faith from their constituency. However pretending like the GOP has done nothing wrong is just more partisan hackery, too much evidence is out there about voter disenfranchisement.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 05 2018, @08:37PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 05 2018, @08:37PM (#758183) Journal

      You get a point, I suppose. But, let's be careful about confusing accusations with evidence. For the most part, the accusations seem to be along the lines of "We don't like how you're doing this!" rather than "This is clearly against the law." Case in point, that clown who purged a bunch of names in Florida. It appears that he went by the letter of the law. If we want to argue the justness of the law, fine - that is wide open. It looks pretty questionable to me. But, apparently, the law is being applied just as it has been for decades, with no real irregularities.

      Maybe the R's are just more careful about crossing their T's and dotting their I's while they are busy disenfranchising people? Or, maybe the D's just want EVERYBODY to vote, anywhere they please, without any qualification?

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Thexalon on Tuesday November 06 2018, @01:59AM

    by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday November 06 2018, @01:59AM (#758315)

    If Dems lose big time this time around, it's because they fucked over their constituency too badly to be forgiven in just two years.

    And it's entirely possible that will happen, due to one constituency in particular where the Democrats are rapidly losing ground.

    The giant demographic shift between the 2008 and 2012 electorates versus the 2016 electorates was not any of the things pundits usually go on about. Compared to 2012: Turnout was up overall, so the "lazy voters sat on their hands and gave us Trump" theory pushed by lots of Democrats doesn't hold water. Turnout was up among younger voters too, so again the "lazy stupid kids didn't do what they were supposed to" theory pushed by lots of Democrats doesn't work either. Trump didn't pick up massively more votes than George W Bush, John McCain, or Mitt Romney, which puts to pasture the Republican's idea that Trump was some sort of awesomely awesome guy who managed to pull in tons of people into the GOP who weren't there before. Nor was it unusually vote totals for the Greens or Libertarians that made the difference.

    The actual change was this: about 1 out of 15 black people who had voted in 2008 and 2012 did not vote in 2016, and black people have been generally the Democrat's most loyal constituency since 1964. They weren't going to vote for Trump, but they also weren't going to work too hard to vote for Hillary Clinton. That requires explanation, and I think there is one: The last time there was a big drop in black people voting was 1996, which was also the last time someone named "Clinton" was on the ballot. Bill Clinton, for all his Arsenio Hall appearances and attempts to appear to enjoy "Lift Every Voice and Sing", repeatedly sold out black people in his first term, and a fairly large number of black people took notice. They were somewhat willing to accept that kind of treatment from Obama because he appeared to be one of their own, but when Hillary Clinton (whose own record of how she treats black folks is mixed at best) basically took them completely for granted, they decided to not vote for her.

    The prospect to Democrats of losing their strong support among black folks is why this doesn't enter into the pundit's discussion of what the heck happened in 2016, even though it is the explanation that fits the numbers better than anything else.

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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday November 06 2018, @05:14AM (8 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday November 06 2018, @05:14AM (#758393) Journal

    Those aren't mutually exclusive. The Democrats have been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory for at least 40 years, and since the Clinton era they've seemingly been doing everything they can to become the second wing of the GOP. They're still the better option at this point in time though, if only because most of them aren't ratshit insane.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 06 2018, @01:15PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 06 2018, @01:15PM (#758482)

      The Democrats have been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

      Only on the surface, in front of the cameras. It's an act! Behind the scenes it's all lovey-dovey between the GOP and DNC. They 'share' the power to keep the power, and the voters play along thinking they'll get a piece of the action. You may like to think the DNC is the 'lesser evil'. but they are not. The GOP/DNC is a monolith, a single entity with a singular purpose.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday November 06 2018, @04:15PM (6 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday November 06 2018, @04:15PM (#758555) Journal

        One party has been inviting the religious nutbars in since the late 70s and early 80s, and arming *another* group of religious nutbars who think the first group is going to spend eternity on fire, and vice versa. It's not the Democrats.
        One party has been threatening to get rid of Medicare and Social Security for ages, and now appears poised to succeed. It's not the Democrats.
        One party has been consistently against gays' and trans* peoples' rights even as the country's broader opinion moves toward the light. It's not the Democrats.
        One party has been slaves to the false prophet of trickle-down economics for decades now, despite time after time seeing it doesn't fucking work. It's not the Democrats.

        "They're the same!!!111one" has got to be a GOP psy-ops campaign.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 06 2018, @05:13PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 06 2018, @05:13PM (#758584)

          They both work together to the same ends, otherwise we would see real opposition and much less 'compromise'. You still only describe two sides of one coin. You're taking their theatrics as gospel. They just aren't playing the game you think they are.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday November 07 2018, @05:26AM (4 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday November 07 2018, @05:26AM (#758842) Journal

            I know what game they're playing, and it's the "Neo-" game (as in, neoliberal and neoconservative). They're both irredeemable greedheads, but the Democrats will destroy society by accident while the Republicans will do it on purpose, largely because a non-trivial percentage of them are trying to bring about a Biblical (or so they think...) apocalypse.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @04:10PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @04:10PM (#759013)

              Again you are wrong, and believing the act is real.. GOP and DNC share the same objectives. The phony 'opposition' is pure illusion, though its effectiveness is quite real. Their ONLY differences are in style.

              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday November 07 2018, @04:34PM (2 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday November 07 2018, @04:34PM (#759026) Journal

                Well, that "style" can mean life or death for us plebs here on the ground for another 5-20 years. Maybe just enough for me to GTFO to somewhere civilized. I'll take it.

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @05:00PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @05:00PM (#759044)

                  Well, things won't get any better until we actually work at it. We can start by not repeating the same mistakes over and over. But, if kicking the can further down the street is what floats yer boat, so be it.

                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 09 2018, @05:29AM

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday November 09 2018, @05:29AM (#759729) Journal

                    I'd agree with you, but things haven't gotten bad enough for enough people yet for the critical mass of We the People to wake the fuck up and demand change. Frankly, I'm tired of it all, and would rather go somewhere civilized, so am going to vote in the way that is most likely to give me enough time to get the unholy fuck out. If things get worse as fast as I think they're going to, of course, I won't have the time, and assuming elections still exist and I'm alive to vote in them, I will then be casting third party votes.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 06 2018, @10:03AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 06 2018, @10:03AM (#758436)

    women resented being told to vote for a uterus.

    And they lost that too. Oh wait, they lost it for their daughters and granddaughters. Abortion to become illegal in US very soon.

    Of course, the rich and even well off don't have to worry about that, only the poor.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 06 2018, @03:23PM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 06 2018, @03:23PM (#758522) Journal

      Well, I may not be around to see all of that happen. Women voters, especially younger women voters, who resented Hillary? I won't be around to see their granddaughters all grown up. Maybe you can drop me a postcard, or an email, and tell me about it when it happens.

      I'll state plainly what MOST conservatives object to. They object to PAYING FOR abortion on demand. Dems are busy telling that abortion on demand is some kind of right, or something. They expect working people and taxpayers to pay for all that shit. As a taxpayer, I most definitely object to paying for abortions for irresponsible little shits. You pay for your own abortion, and I'll stay the fuck out of your life. Deal?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 06 2018, @06:58PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 06 2018, @06:58PM (#758637)

        They object to PAYING FOR abortion on demand.

        Damn right! Pregnancy is a temporary condition. Elective abortion is a cosmetic procedure. We should be pushing that message hard. Free abortions, but no dental/eye care( the way most employee insurance was given)?? WTF??!!