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posted by martyb on Wednesday November 07 2018, @09:37AM   Printer-friendly
from the who's-da-boss? dept.

France's Macron Calls for Creating a 'European Army'

French President Emmanuel Macron called for the creation of a "true European army," issuing a sharp critique of trans-Atlantic security ties days before U.S. President Trump is due to visit France.

Europe's security ties with the U.S., which have been a bedrock of the continent's stability for decades, have come under strain as Mr. Trump has demanded more military spending from European members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and questioned the alliance's benefits for the U.S. Such tensions have led Mr. Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel to publicly question whether the continent can still rely on the U.S. to come to Europe's defense.

Mr. Macron went a step further by grouping the U.S. among foreign powers he considers a potential threat to the continent. "We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America," Mr. Macron said on French radio.

Mr. Macron made the remarks as part of a weeklong tour of World War I battlefields ahead of the centenary of the Nov. 11 Armistice, when the French leader is due to host Mr. Trump, Vladimir Putin of Russia and many other heads of state.

Also at Newsweek.

Emmanuel Macron: Six held in 'attack' plot against French president

Six people have been arrested in France on suspicion of planning to carry out a "violent" attack on President Emmanuel Macron, officials say. The individuals, reported to be five men and a woman, were picked up by the French security services in Brittany, north-east and south-east France.

An investigation is now taking place into a "criminal terrorist association", a judicial source said. Details of the suspects and the alleged plot have not yet been released.


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  • (Score: 2) by aim on Wednesday November 07 2018, @12:57PM (3 children)

    by aim (6322) on Wednesday November 07 2018, @12:57PM (#758932)

    Then get on with it! Europe really needs a EU force. We don't want the continent disintegrating because of populists again.

    I agree on the principle, but...

    First, Brexit must be cancelled. We all know the consultation (not a vote!) was heavily influenced by outside forces with an interest in weakening the EU. That alone should be sufficient reason, besides the still pretty close result.

    Second, fine for a common force... of core EU states. Explicitly excluding the eastern states who quite obviously do not want to share the common values (e.g. Hungary, Poland). Start off with the existing Eurocorps and build from there.

    Third, hammer some sense in all those halfwits who believe all the disinformation BS being thrown around by populists. I guess that much depends on proper education systems and actual brains, which is a hard nut to crack...

    Looking at the news, it sure feels much like the 1930ies... from what I learned from my parents, my grand-parents and of course school. Humanity should not go down that road again (with an especially hard look at the Trump administration)!

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @02:59PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @02:59PM (#758970)

    First, Brexit must be cancelled. We all know the consultation (not a vote!) was heavily influenced by outside forces with an interest in weakening the EU.

    And, the movement to cancel Brexit in the UK isn't being influenced by 'outside forces'?¹
    Fuck me, if you truly believe that then you're just another bloody naïve sheeple, albeit of a different flock, totally believing that all those EU orchestrated yappy little barking noises you're hearing are really big bad wolves...

    Get it into you head, both sides are lying BS merchants, all this posturing about borders etc you see this lot performing is for their financial and (future) political benefit, it is not being done to benefit you or yours, you just get to watch the Circus surrounding the posturing, and it's all made 'real' for you as you get to a chance to 'participate' in history by writing twaddle like this about this 'momentous event' online, and you get to make meaningless noises and have pointless protests in meatspace about both the Brexit Circus and the antics of the performers...Society of the Spectacle and all that.

    Listening to the choruses of bleating idiots on both sides has been one of the most amusing unexpected benefits of this Brexit thing, and there's no apparent end to it..perpetual popcorn time ahoy!²

    ¹ By 'outside forces' you're most probably implying Russia being behind the Brexiteers, yet the Labour Party (an organisation which, of old, was notoriously riddled with Soviet spies and those nasty 'comsymps' ) is, in its usual schizophrenic way, probably mostly anti-Brexit (going by the noises the local party Apparatchiks make, it is, anyway). I'll let you go figure it out.

    ²If you want my position, both the EU and the UK can go fuck themselves, in that order, hopefully.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @04:05PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @04:05PM (#759009)

    Revoke the free democratic choice of the British people? Form a military coalition with the goal of colonizing other states? Suppress political dissenters?

    Holy crap I hope you're being sarcastic.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @05:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @05:16PM (#759052)

      i know you know this but, no they're not being sarcastic. they are really that stupid. they mentioned poland and hungary, likely because poland and hungary have the goddamn balls to protect their people from this globalist scam and it's hordes of invaders. this stupid bitch thinks a bunch of unelected parasites is going to function on their behalf when they (like everyone else) can't even control their national elected government. sad.