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posted by mrpg on Thursday November 08 2018, @03:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the p! dept.

Mystery Math Whiz and Novelist Advance Permutation Problem

A new proof from the Australian science fiction writer Greg Egan and a 2011 proof anonymously posted online are now being hailed as significant advances on a puzzle mathematicians have been studying for at least 25 years.

On September 16, 2011, an anime fan posted a math question to the online bulletin board 4chan about the cult classic television series The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. Season one of the show, which involves time travel, had originally aired in nonchronological order, and a re-broadcast and a DVD version had each further rearranged the episodes. Fans were arguing online about the best order to watch the episodes, and the 4chan poster wondered: If viewers wanted to see the series in every possible order, what is the shortest list of episodes they'd have to watch?

In less than an hour, an anonymous person offered an answer — not a complete solution, but a lower bound on the number of episodes required. The argument, which covered series with any number of episodes, showed that for the 14-episode first season of Haruhi, viewers would have to watch at least 93,884,313,611 episodes to see all possible orderings. "Please look over [the proof] for any loopholes I might have missed," the anonymous poster wrote.

The proof slipped under the radar of the mathematics community for seven years — apparently only one professional mathematician spotted it at the time, and he didn't check it carefully. But in a plot twist last month, the Australian science fiction novelist Greg Egan proved a new upper bound on the number of episodes required. Egan's discovery renewed interest in the problem and drew attention to the lower bound posted anonymously in 2011. Both proofs are now being hailed as significant advances on a puzzle mathematicians have been studying for at least 25 years.

Mathematicians quickly verified Egan's upper bound, which, like the lower bound, applies to series of any length. Then Robin Houston, a mathematician at the data visualization firm Kiln, and Jay Pantone of Marquette University in Milwaukee independently verified the work of the anonymous 4chan poster. "It took a lot of work to try to figure out whether or not it was correct," Pantone said, since the key ideas hadn't been expressed particularly clearly.

Now, Houston and Pantone, joined by Vince Vatter of the University of Florida in Gainesville, have written up the formal argument. In their paper, they list the first author as "Anonymous 4chan Poster."

"It's a weird situation that this very elegant proof of something that wasn't previously known was posted in such an unlikely place," Houston said.

[...] If a television series has just three episodes, there are six possible orders in which to view them: 123, 132, 213, 231, 312 and 321. You could string these six sequences together to give a list of 18 episodes that includes every ordering, but there's a much more efficient way to do it: 123121321. A sequence like this one that contains every possible rearrangement (or permutation) of a collection of n symbols is called a "superpermutation."

The story then describes parallels with the "Asymmetric" (aka weighted) traveling salesman problem as well as the fortuitous connections which led researchers to work together in finding calculations of upper and lower bounds for an arbitrary number of episodes. You'll have to RTFA to learn how many episodes you'd need to watch to view them in all possible orders.


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  • (Score: 2) by tibman on Thursday November 08 2018, @04:41PM (3 children)

    by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 08 2018, @04:41PM (#759413)

    What are those "very intelligent, and/or a well educated" people doing after they have moved on from university/college?

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 08 2018, @06:27PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 08 2018, @06:27PM (#759463)

    What are those "very intelligent, and/or a well educated" people doing after they have moved on from university/college?

    In Trump's America? Getting as far away from the United States as possible.

    Next question?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @12:26AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @12:26AM (#759620)

      In Trump's America? Getting as far away from the United States as possible.

      Oooooo how edgy! Please tell me more!

      How about I quote what someone told me in December 2008 "get over your butthurt self and get over it"

    • (Score: 2) by tibman on Friday November 09 2018, @12:48AM

      by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 09 2018, @12:48AM (#759627)

      Doubt it. Don't educated people know that the US President's term has limits? as in, you don't have to abandon your country because the current leader is literally temporary.

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