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posted by martyb on Friday November 09 2018, @05:52AM   Printer-friendly
from the does-the-pensioner-want-to-repay-his-benefits-and-go-back-to-work,-too? dept.

Washington Post:

In the quixotic battle against old age, some people use skin care and spin class.

That’s not enough for Emile Ratelband, a 69-year-old who feels like he’s in his 40s. The Dutch pensioner is asking a court in his hometown of Arnhem, southeast of Amsterdam, to change his birth certificate so that it says he took his first breath on March 11, 1969, rather than on March 11, 1949. The judges heard his case Monday and promised they would render a verdict in the next several weeks.

Ratelband sees his request as no different from a petition to change his name or the gender he was assigned at birth — and isn’t bothered that this comparison might offend transgender people, whose medical needs have been recognized by the American Medical Association. It comes down to free will, he maintains.

I want to be recognized as an alien trapped in an Earthling's body.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @02:04PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @02:04PM (#759846)

    he wants to lie.
    it is a fact that he was born in 1949, and he wants to say otherwise.
    he can already do that. go to a bar, meet a woman, lie about his age. then, as the relationship progresses and the woman decides she wants to have children with him, he can always tell the truth (at that point the woman should be somewhat pissed off, but able to get over it). or he can keep lying until he's caught, I don't care.
    the LGBT people say "I don't feel like a man even though I have a penis and testicles. I feel like a woman, and I want to be treated like a woman". This is not about facts, it's about how the person feels, and how the person wants other to act towards them. They want to have an official acknowledgment of how they feel.

    if you really insist on making the comparison to "non-standard sexual orientatiton people", you should be comparing this guy to someone saying "you think you see a penis and testicles, I know you see a penis and testicles, but I want everyone to say that it's in fact a vagina, and act accordingly".

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by AthanasiusKircher on Friday November 09 2018, @02:42PM

    by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Friday November 09 2018, @02:42PM (#759865) Journal

    I'm pretty sure I repeatedly said I don't necessarily agree with this guy's lawsuit. I just think it raises questions about the importance we give to a birthdate and how it is pervasively used in records of people, often to their detriment.

    if you really insist on making the comparison to "non-standard sexual orientatiton people", you should be comparing this guy to someone saying "you think you see a penis and testicles, I know you see a penis and testicles, but I want everyone to say that it's in fact a vagina, and act accordingly".

    Actually, no. He wants to change what's on his birth certificate. I don't know what the laws are in his country, but I assume it may be similar to the laws used in most states in the U.S. that now allow transgender people to change their sex on their birth certificate [wikipedia.org]. (Some don't even require evidence of sex reassignment surgery to do so.)

    it is a fact that he was born in 1949, and he wants to say otherwise.

    It is a fact that many transgender people were born with certain genitals and certain chromosomes. They are now able to change their birth certificates to state that something different happened. Again, I think this guy's claims are questionable, but your analogy is not quite on point given the ability of transgender folks to alter records.