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posted by martyb on Friday November 09 2018, @08:28PM   Printer-friendly
from the keep-digging dept.

People from North America moved into South America in at least three migration waves, researchers report online November 8 in Cell. The first migrants, who reached South America by at least 11,000 years ago, were genetically related to a 12,600-year-old toddler from Montana known as Anzick-1 (SN: 3/22/14, p. 6). The child's skeleton was found with artifacts from the Clovis people, who researchers used to think were the first people in the Americas, although that idea has fallen out of favor. Scientists also previously thought these were the only ancient migrants to South America.

But DNA analysis of samples from 49 ancient people suggests a second wave of settlers replaced the Clovis group in South America about 9,000 years ago. And a third group related to ancient people from California's Channel Islands spread over the Central Andes about 4,200 years ago, geneticist Nathan Nakatsuka of Harvard University and colleagues found.

One mystery produced by the research was genetic markers were found in remains in Brazil that are shared with Australian Aborigines, but by no remains found between them in the Americas.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by ikanreed on Friday November 09 2018, @09:01PM (20 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 09 2018, @09:01PM (#760076) Journal

    Before I address your post, I need some clarity, because parody is dead.

    Do you actually believe this bullshit?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @09:46PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @09:46PM (#760088)

    That's the nature of Science: It shits all over your beliefs.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Revek on Friday November 09 2018, @10:42PM (7 children)

      by Revek (5022) on Friday November 09 2018, @10:42PM (#760122)

      No, the truth shits all over your beliefs/fantasies. Science is a method for finding the truth nothing more nothing less.

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      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @11:57PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @11:57PM (#760149)

        Redundant comment is redundant.

      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @12:10AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @12:10AM (#760154)

        Redundant comment is redundant.

      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:35AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:35AM (#760192)

        Redundant comment is redundant.

      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:26AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:26AM (#760236)

        Redundant comment is redundant.

      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @08:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @08:54AM (#760283)

        Redundant comment is redundant.

      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:06PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:06PM (#760364)

        Redundant comment is redundant.

      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12 2018, @11:57AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12 2018, @11:57AM (#760875)

        Redundant comment is redundant.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @11:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @11:49PM (#760145)

      That's the nature of Science: It shits all over your beliefs.

      So what you're saying is I should have named my cat "Science"?

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by tizan on Friday November 09 2018, @10:08PM (4 children)

    by tizan (3245) on Friday November 09 2018, @10:08PM (#760100)

    It is the europefying of history...just like many cannot accept that their religion, that they will claim is absolute truth, was started by a guy who was an Arab by all definition (region, genetics etc)...He is depicted as tall, white instead of the 5ft2 or 5ft4 and brown as he was most probably.

    Similarly i am sure this narrative (not scientific fact) is to help people say that their ancestors took a continent from white people and from earlier asian migrants !

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @10:13PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @10:13PM (#760104)

      You're the one talking about narratives.

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @10:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 09 2018, @10:21PM (#760109)

      It's called the Holy Roman Empire for a reason; it's called the Roman Catholic Church for a reason.

      Christianity became a thing when the Emperor of Rome seized it as a tool for unifying the otherwise disparate religions of the Empire; it satisfied the legalistic fanaticism of the Jews, and the myths of the many Roman sects, and the holidays and practices of the Pagans of Europe, and bound it all together in the pomp and circumstance of the Roman Empire, all of which was increasingly colored by Medieval European culture and then Enlightenment European culture, followed by puritanical/evangelical American culture.

      You'd have to be insane to attribute all of that to "some Arab".

      Jesus is an idea, one that turns out to be best represented by a handsome, peaceful, kind, blue-eyed European who tells you to be good and pay Caesar what is Caesars.

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @12:36PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @12:36PM (#760315)

      Depicted? Hardly. They have been known to kill people who publish images of their beloved paedophile prophet

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @07:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @07:42PM (#760470)

      people trying to make their god be like themselves is not very related to this story. Just because propagandists say that *all* "native americans" or even more presumptuous "first nations" peoples were from Mongoloid migrations doesn't mean it's true. 11k yrs? that's all you got? there could have been worldwide near extinctions of humans in previous thousands or even millions of years for all we know(ancient aliens style). or less fantastically, there very well could have been migrations of Caucasoids that predated the Mongoloid migrations and/or coexisted with said migrations. Caucasoids might have been sailing the seas/coasts setting up shop globally while the mongoloid races were still dependent on land bridges. (pyramids everywhere that have since been claimed by subsequent populations or their slaves and/or a mixture that remained. none of the scientists depending on establishment money for their research/propaganda look into/talk about any of that shit) the PC version of history is that these mongoloid peoples were here in their "native homeland" minding their own business when evil Uncle Cracker showed up to slaughter them. who's to say that the mongoloid migrations didn't find Caucasoid populations (maybe only in pockets and rarely?) and either breed them out over time, or defeat them in war as well? Who's to say that kings of european countries taking over "native american" land didn't have knowledge of previous wars? maybe it was partially about revenge? it wouldn't be the first time. maybe it was revenge for the hun invasion/near destruction of europe? the fact is, that the Aryan race (specifically) is trying to be disappeared from history and the future (usually by brainwashed white people), and this "europefying" is many times a response to that, not necessarily the other way around. there are also "black nationalists" (any black "nut" who questions their history according to some, i'm sure) who claim that there were "Native Americans" of African decent. i don't rule that shit out either. in fact, i have questions, but no time to research it. there's a lot we don't know (purposely?) about ancient human history and dates of things to be such a douche.

  • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:11AM (4 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:11AM (#760175) Journal

    AncientArchitects and AncientAliens aren't fucking science.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:39AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:39AM (#760197)

      It would be a shame if something were to happen to it.

      • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Saturday November 10 2018, @02:42AM (1 child)

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 10 2018, @02:42AM (#760209) Journal

        That's literally the dumbass youtube channel you linked.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:07AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:07AM (#760231)

          Keep thinking about it.

    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:18AM

      by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:18AM (#760234) Homepage Journal

      The Centauri technology [fanpop.com] involved in keeping Giorgio Tsoukalos' [wikipedia.org] hair in place proves that aliens, ancient or otherwise, exist.

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