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posted by martyb on Saturday November 10 2018, @11:26AM   Printer-friendly
from the leaving-the-basement dept.

BBC:

Mr Brown, now 24, dropped out of college and spent the following years at home - gaming, in chat rooms and reading about politics.

He became almost entirely immersed in an online world of "echo chambers" where he felt the pull of extremism and cybercrime.

Mr Brown, from Ashton, Cornwall, says he became increasingly "eccentric" and eventually lost touch with reality.

"I can count the number of times I went out in a seven-year period on both of my hands," he says.

...

He finally decided to seek help and ended up taking part in the Real Ideas Organisation's (RIO) Game Changer programme, which aims to encourage young people to develop skills and overcome any issues they face before getting them into work, education or training.

7 years. Not bad. Can anyone beat that?


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:03PM (26 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:03PM (#760325)

    No mention of where he was getting money from, or who was bringing him food.

    These sorts of issues can be just as much the fault of the people who enable this behavior.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:32PM (#760333)

    It says he was living at home, with the implication that his parents took care of him.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:38PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:38PM (#760335)

    These sorts of issues can be just as much the fault of the people who enable this behavior.

    In his case, sure. But some people are retired or just wealthy and can have the same sort of problems. At least in those cases they can afford to take time to figure it out without relying on someone else though.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:01PM (23 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:01PM (#760362)

    His mum was mentally and physically damaged, it says.

    It says explicitly:

    In what was a difficult childhood, Mr Brown was taken into care repeatedly during his mother's hospital stays for her mental and physical health problems...
    "I wasn't taking care of myself[;] I was only taking care of my mother.

    Undoubtedly a single mother; undoubtedly on welfare.

    Even when it's written there explicitly for you to see, you fuckers still can't perceive it.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by acid andy on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:20PM (22 children)

      by acid andy (1683) on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:20PM (#760370) Homepage Journal

      undoubtedly on welfare

      What's your point?

      Even when it's written there explicitly for you to see, you fuckers still can't perceive it.

      Seriously, what's your point?

      --
      If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:17PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:17PM (#760397)

        As a general rule, single mothers shouldn't get government assistance. Single mothers are some of the most self-centered and narcissistic people around.

        They offload their responsibility to other people and everybody suffers as a result. It's really not fair to the kids to be neglected like that because the mother couldn't figure out how to manage a working relationship.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:53PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:53PM (#760420)

          It's really not fair to the kids to be neglected like that because the mother couldn't figure out how to manage a working relationship

          Then why do courts continually assign kids in divorce almost elusively to mothers? Oh yes, because of "nurturing"... you get what you pay for.

          https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jun/13/single-fathers-uk-statistics [theguardian.com]
          https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/fl-lf/famil/stat2000/p4.html [justice.gc.ca] - probably similar in UK

          Anyway, the dude was running away from reality. Games, better than drugs. Only few years gone instead of wasted life.

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:03PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:03PM (#760427)

            That's a remnant from the old days, when that was literally a woman's job: To raise children while men were out trying to gather resources for the family.

            From what I can tell, women are not more nurturing, and tend to do a horrible job or raising children who are older than perhaps 7 years old.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by crafoo on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:23PM (18 children)

        by crafoo (6639) on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:23PM (#760399)

        The point is that single mothers destroy generations, and we enable it.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:31PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:31PM (#760440)

          Lol, thie incel misogynerds are outing themselves quite nicely rhese days.

        • (Score: 5, Informative) by acid andy on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:43PM (8 children)

          by acid andy (1683) on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:43PM (#760444) Homepage Journal

          Not all single parents chose their outcome. Often their partner leaves against their will. Or they cheat on them. Enable them? So you'd prefer them to starve to death?

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          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @07:14PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @07:14PM (#760459)

            You've chosen the dumbest interpretation of your opponent's point.

            Weak sauce.

            I wonder how many single mothers are worthy of receive the money stolen from other people (mostly men, who are straight and white); certainly, I'd say a such worthy mother would need to be one who desperately didn't want to be on Welfare, and who escaped being on welfare within 1 year or 2. What are the stats on that?

            • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @08:34PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @08:34PM (#760484)

              You've chosen the dumbest counter argument ever, snowflake. Those single mothers are doing more to propagate the human race the the single insels contributing to society for the porn they are watching.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @08:55PM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @08:55PM (#760489)

                So, I'm not so sure you're correct.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @11:04PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @11:04PM (#760508)

                  Most single mothers work for a living and do pay taxes, so the welfare they are getting isn't as big of a chunk as you'd think. Also, they wouldn't have to be on welfare if the country was sane.

                  Keep blaming the symptoms, that'll totally cure the disease.

                  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @11:20PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @11:20PM (#760514)

                    I've watched the government and a single woman collude over multiple years to turn that single woman into a single mom via adoption, and then she went around telling everyone how hard it was to be a single mom, and that she was so thankful that she lived in a society that is willing to take care of those in need.

                    You can't make this stuff up.

                    The West is rushing to its death.

          • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @07:12AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @07:12AM (#760598)

            You've chosen the dumbest interpretation of your opponent's point. Nobody said "all single parents chose their outcome".

            Weak sauce.

            I wonder how many single mothers are worthy to receive the money stolen from other people (mostly men, who are straight and white); certainly, I'd say such a worthy mother would need to be one who desperately doesn't want to be on Welfare, and who would escape being on welfare within 1 year or 2. What are the stats on that?

            I've watched the government and a single woman collude over multiple years to turn that single woman into a single mom via adoption, and then she went around telling everyone how hard it was to be a single mom, and that she was so thankful that she lived in a society that is willing to take care of those in need.

            You can't make this stuff up.

            The West is rushing to its death.

          • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @06:53PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @06:53PM (#760679)

            You've chosen the dumbest interpretation of your opponent's point. Nobody said "all single parents chose their outcome".

            Weak sauce.

            I wonder how many single mothers are worthy to receive the money stolen from other people (mostly men, who are straight and white); certainly, I'd say such a worthy mother would need to be one who desperately doesn't want to be on Welfare, and who would escape being on welfare within 1 year or 2. What are the stats on that?

            I've watched the government and a single woman collude over multiple years to turn that single woman into a single mom via adoption, and then she went around telling everyone how hard it was to be a single mom, and that she was so thankful that she lived in a society that is willing to take care of those in need.

            You can't make this stuff up.

            The West is rushing to its death.

          • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12 2018, @08:05PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12 2018, @08:05PM (#761027)

            You've chosen the dumbest interpretation of your opponent's point. Nobody said "all single parents chose their outcome".

            Weak sauce.

            I wonder how many single mothers are worthy to receive the money stolen from other people (mostly men, who are straight and white); certainly, I'd say such a worthy mother would need to be one who desperately doesn't want to be on Welfare, and who would escape being on welfare within 1 year or 2. What are the stats on that?

            I've watched the government and a single woman collude over multiple years to turn that single woman into a single mom via adoption, and then she went around telling everyone how hard it was to be a single mom, and that she was so thankful that she lived in a society that is willing to take care of those in need.

            You can't make this stuff up.

            The West is rushing to its death.

        • (Score: 2) by dry on Sunday November 11 2018, @05:04AM (7 children)

          by dry (223) on Sunday November 11 2018, @05:04AM (#760567) Journal

          What do you suggest? Killing the kids early? Killing the mothers and releasing the kids into the wild? Perhaps forcing woman and child to stay with the violent pedophile husband?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @05:22AM (6 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @05:22AM (#760571)

            Statistics show that the children of single mothers are at a huge risk of childhood sexual and physic abuse due to the mother's endless string of "boyfriends".

            • (Score: 2) by dry on Sunday November 11 2018, @05:30AM (5 children)

              by dry (223) on Sunday November 11 2018, @05:30AM (#760577) Journal

              Probably true, it happened to my wife after her dad left her mom due to the mom screwing around. What's the fix?

              • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @07:09AM (4 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @07:09AM (#760597)
                • Privatize welfare (charity).
                • Or, require welfare people to be "institutionalized". If you want to live in your dad's basement, then you have to live by your dad's rules; if you want to live on the taxpayers' dime, then you have to according to the taxpayers' strict rules, including curfew, showing up at designated menial jobs (unless you find your own), and setting up a plan to pay everything back (at 0% for all I care). Failing this, you go to prison for non-violent offenders, and your kids go into foster homes.

                Due to excessive bad posting from this IP or Subnet, comment posting has temporarily been disabled.

                Do you fuckers want a discussion or not? Assholes.

                Goes to reset IP Address

                • (Score: 2) by dry on Sunday November 11 2018, @08:01AM (3 children)

                  by dry (223) on Sunday November 11 2018, @08:01AM (#760605) Journal

                  Ah, the totalitarian solution. I have a hard time accepting that.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @06:55PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @06:55PM (#760681)

                    You just have to have somewhere to go; if you have nowhere to go and must therefore trespass on someone else's property, then you should be arrested, removed, and institutionalized until you can make arrangements for having a place to be.

                    You can't just shit in on my property.

                    • (Score: 3, Touché) by dry on Monday November 12 2018, @06:22AM (1 child)

                      by dry (223) on Monday November 12 2018, @06:22AM (#760820) Journal

                      then you should be arrested, removed, and institutionalized

                      You actually say that you're not totalitarian?

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12 2018, @11:37AM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12 2018, @11:37AM (#760872)

                        You have to have somewhere to go (e.g., a family member's care, a charity, etc.), or you're trespassing.

                        What do does one do with trespassers? We've tried just letting them lay about and shit all over the streets, and that's now gotten out of hand. It's unsanitary and dangerous.

                        What should we do? If a person will not engage in well ordered behavior voluntarily, then he must be forced into well ordered behavior until he proves to himself that well ordered behavior is good for him, and until he proves to others that he is capable of sustaining well ordered behavior according to his own decisions.

                        When you're a child, you live within the bounds of someone else's institutions. These people are children.