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Apple's MacBook Pro laptops have become increasingly unfriendly with Linux in recent years [...] But now with the latest Mac Mini systems employing Apple's T2 security chip, they too are likely to crush any Linux dreams.
At least until further notice, these new Apple systems sporting the T2 chip will not be able to boot Linux operating systems.
[...] By default, Microsoft Windows isn't even bootable on the new Apple systems until enabling support for Windows via the Boot Camp Assistant macOS software.
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(Score: 5, Interesting) by Arik on Monday November 12 2018, @05:18AM (10 children)
The kind of user who isn't necessarily up to date. Lots of us remember Mac's from a different era, and if you don't run into them every day might think they were still making good hardware.
Spoiler; they aren't. This 'macbook pro' is utterly useless, under any OS. It's a fashion accessory not a functional computer.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 12 2018, @11:19AM (1 child)
Yeah, it's been quite a while since the PPC days.
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(Score: 4, Informative) by Bot on Monday November 12 2018, @05:13PM
The PPC-openfirmware-everything-but-the-modem-supported-and-no-blobs days. Yes, since the debian potato days, the hardware and peripheral guys did A LOT of work to prevent free software to make your machines basically eternal or faster with every new model. And to put the nail in the coffin, poetteringware helped on the software side.
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(Score: 2) by isostatic on Monday November 12 2018, @12:48PM
I'm typing this on a 2013 macbook air (£900 new), the OS is fine - I use it mainly for web browsing on the train (as now), I don't do real work on it. The hardware, including the battery, has survived well. Keyboard isn't as good as an old thinkpad but beats all modern PC laptops I've ever used. The trackpad is almost as good as the pointer on a thinkpad.
My 2010 thinkpad (£1800 new), software (currently ubuntu 1604, but was originally 10.04 and has been upgraded via 12, 14 and 16) is fine, but hardware - especially the hinge - could be better. On the other hand the keyboard is far better than the mac.
A colleague has a new macbook without the keyboard, I'm not impressed, but the industry has been reducing quality on all laptops over the last 10-15 years.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DannyB on Monday November 12 2018, @04:13PM
Those macs from a different era might be perfectly good overpriced machines with life left in them.
What makes macs obsolete, or so I am told, is the sudden, purely artificial, lack of new OS updates for otherwise perfectly good hardware. I heard this some years back, so it may be dated. But the pattern went like this: You can't get the new browser, because it needs the new OS. You can't get the new OS because it doesn't support your not-that-old and otherwise perfectly good hardware.
If present day macs won't run Linux or even (pinches nose...) Windows, then once those OS updates stop, the machine really does become useless. It is like Apple is trying to inflict additional pain deliberately. But for a religiously loyal audience that has more dollars than sense, they'll just buy a new of whatever Apple says.
I am not an irrational Apple hater. Back in the 80's and 90's I was a card carrying Apple fanboy and long time Mac developer. Back when Apple was a great company and led in technology rather than in fashion.
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(Score: 2) by Immerman on Monday November 12 2018, @04:25PM (3 children)
Haven't seen any of the new macs personally in a long time, but have Linux on a macbook pro from the early teens, back when DVD drives and adequate USB ports were the rule. and the build quality, functionality, and cosmetics are all quite good, probably among the best. I've heard from several mac people that it's all been downhill since then. Certainly the precipitous loss of USB ports suggests as much.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Monday November 12 2018, @05:20PM (2 children)
I had a titanium powerbook II series. A head turner, basically next to the other laptops it seemed alien tech. Linux double booting, booting from firewire. The build quality though was OK but not stellar, i had problems with the screen hinge due to a fall and they wanted 300 eur to send it from ITA to NL to have it repaired. I NOPED out of it crossed fingers wiped the HD and mailed it to a shop who did repairs some 600km from here, everything went well.no
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Monday November 12 2018, @05:21PM (1 child)
"no" means "no big problems afterwards but the machine tended to heat up a lot".
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(Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday November 13 2018, @12:14AM
True of every Titanium Powerbook I ever worked with - and I worked with many of them. If the interior was cleaned regularly and they were kept in spec they would *almost* stay in spec on temp - and spec was pretty hot. And of course they get gunked up just as easy as any other laptop - maybe easier than some.
Once the cooling efficiency degraded even a little, trying to do real work on them resulted in temperatures high enough to make typing on the built-in keyboard uncomfortable, and of course to damage components over time.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12 2018, @05:46PM (1 child)
"flamebait" is an unnecessary and suck ass mod to even have available. it's a whiner's mod. "controversial alert!"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 13 2018, @08:06AM
"Stop downmodding me!" = the refrain of the whiner