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Amazon Reportedly Picks New York, Northern Virginia for HQ2 :
Decision to be formally announced as soon as Tuesday, The Wall Street Journal reports.
[...] It appears Amazon couldn't settle on a single site for its second corporate headquarters and has decided to divide the duties between a second and third headquarters.
The online retailing giant is expected to announce as soon as Tuesday it's chosen New York City and northern Virginia's Crystal City for its planned second headquarters -- dubbed HQ2, The Wall Street Journal reported Monday night, citing people familiar with the matter. Other cities may get other responsibilities, the newspaper added.
Amazon's HQ2 gained attention as one of the biggest corporate projects in the US, with the e-retailer planning to hire 50,000 workers and spend $5 billion. The company fueled excitement about its plans by inviting cities to pitch themselves as sites for the development.
It was reported earlier this month that Amazon was examining the option of creating two separate 25,000-person campuses, in part due to the need to hire enough tech talent and partly to ease housing and traffic concerns. Two HQ2 projects would also ensure that Seattle remains Amazon's definitive headquarters.
I don't suppose Amazon would settle for one 30,000 person campus and one 20,000 person campus, should they be able to cut a better deal with one city over the other?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 13 2018, @03:45PM (6 children)
These people aren't going to get to work at 8:00. Fifty thousand people, flung out across a city and a county? How are they all going to cram into the parking lots at the same time? Ain't happening.
To put that into perspective, the USS Gerald R. Ford has 1/10th of that crew. The entire crew doesn't leave the ship, then return to the ship, all at the same time. It's nigh impossible to do so. But, Amazon is going to put 50,000 in and out of the gates within a few minutes of 8:00, and then again about 4:00, each and every day? I don't think so. People may be looking at hour long commutes, if they live nearby. People further out will be doing two and three hour commutes.
What am I talking about? New York City already has hour long commutes for workers who live nearby.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday November 13 2018, @04:16PM
They originally planned 50k in a second HQ. But they divided that by half. 25k in New York City, 25k in Crystal City.
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(Score: 2) by drussell on Tuesday November 13 2018, @04:46PM (2 children)
Presumably not all 50k jobs would be standard 8-4 / 9-5 jobs, there would likely be some operations 24 hours a day at the HQ2 campus. This means at least part of your workforce is going to be in shifts and if you split the non-daytime jobs into two groups so they start and end at 4 hour increments instead of 8 x 3 it would significantly reduce traffic issues. They could at least interleave some operations staff at different hours than the main"office" workforce. Parking for those not coming in and out via some sort of transit system obviously needs to be provided for the maximum number that are there at any one time but it is not like they would be expecting all 50,000 people to show up and leave at the exact same times.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday November 13 2018, @05:17PM
25,000 people each at two locations, not 50,000.
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(Score: 2) by edIII on Tuesday November 13 2018, @08:47PM
Look to Las Vegas for the answers. Multiple casinos, and I know some of them have more than 10k workers. All told, I believe there might be 150k-200k casino workers in Las Vegas. So for the purposes of discussion, two casinos directly next to each other with 8k employees each should approximate one major HQ with 16k. It's fairly dense, population wise, at any one time on the strip.
The one thing I do know, rush hour traffic comes at multiple times. Casinos do stagger their work force, and even cooperate to an extent. You easily have 25k people leaving the casinos at the end of graveyard shift, being replaced by others. Last time I was there, the freeway was pretty much busy 24/7.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 2) by Virindi on Tuesday November 13 2018, @08:37PM
Northern Virginia already has two and three hour long commutes. Business as usual.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 13 2018, @10:31PM
You haven't worked at a high-tech company like Amazon, have you? In their Seattle headquarters, there are people arriving before 5am. And people arriving around 11am. It's all over the board when people arrive at work. Flex time is a given. In my experience, no one monitored how many hours a person worked. It was the output you provided. Of course, if you tried to work 6 hours a day (and by a miracle could also produce at least an acceptable output) you'd get coached to better utilize your time.
As others have said, not everyone will arrive and leave at the same times.
Nor will they arrive using the same method. Some by car. Some by carpool. Some by vanpool. Some by Amazon shuttles. Some walk/bike ride. Etc.