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posted by martyb on Wednesday November 14 2018, @02:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the Just-Deserts? dept.

Would flooding the deserts help stop global warming?

Imagine flooding a desert half the size of the Sahara. Using 238 trillion gallons of desalinated ocean water to do the job. Creating millions of 1-acre-square micro-reservoirs to grow enough algae to gobble up all of Earth's climate-changing carbon dioxide. For an encore: How about spreading the water and fertilizer (the dead algae) to grow a vast new forest of oxygen-producing trees? A Silicon Valley venture capital firm, Y Combinator, unveiled the radical desert flooding plan as one of four "moonshot" scenarios that it hopes innovators will explore as potential remedies to catastrophic global warming. But would it work? And should it even be tried?

With unlimited capital and political will — both far from given — experts said the scheme would stand a chance of reducing dangerous greenhouse gas levels. But while they generally believe the climate crisis has become severe enough to push even extreme options onto the table, the experts cautioned against interventions that might create as many problems as they solve. "We do not want to have this be purely profit driven," said Greg Rau, a University of California, Santa Cruz climate scientist and part of the team that helped Y Combinator craft the request for proposals. "We are trying to benefit the planet, not just make money. So we need this kind of research and development first, but then oversight and governance over how any of this is deployed."

[...] Y Combinator called filling 1.7 million acres of arid land with 2-meter-deep pools of water "the largest infrastructure project ever undertaken." Just to pump ocean water inland and desalinate it would require an electrical grid far greater than the one Earth now devotes to all other uses. "It's a desert for a reason," said Lynn Fenstermaker, a research professor at Nevada's Desert Research Institute. "Flooding the desert and then keeping the water there, in an already water-poor area with all the evaporation, is hard to imagine." Y Combinator doesn't deny the magnitude of the challenge. "Economies of scale as well as breakthroughs in material science and construction technology will all be necessary for success," its proposal says.

Y Combinator pegs the price tag at $50 trillion. That's roughly half the entire globe's economic productivity for a year. Altman said in an interview that the cost for any solution will need to drop into the billions to become more realistic. "You can do a lot of things that require spending more money than you will ever be able to get," Altman said, "and it just doesn't come." Brought to a more realistic price, he believes that governments will pay.

Previously: Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal


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  • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Wednesday November 14 2018, @08:26AM (2 children)

    by zocalo (302) on Wednesday November 14 2018, @08:26AM (#761657)

    Salt will be spread by winds to half of the Africa

    Europe and America too. Given favourable wind conditions saharan sand can be dumped across Europe leaving a fine orangish residue everywhere as far north as the UK and Scandinavia (happens at least a couple of times a year here in the UK if you're paying attention), and apparently it's potentially a significant factor in the ecosystem of the Brazilian rain forest [nasa.gov] as well. Something tells me that messing with this before we fully understand the potential implications is not going to be a very smart thing to do. Now if someone can come up with an end-to-end solution whereby, say, the excess salt is used as a giant thermal battery to store solar power captured during the day for night time consumption and the actual desalination process (that's a LOT of sea water to be processed) is efficient enough not to cause more harm than the benefits provided the flooding[1] and conversion of desert to arable land, then we might be talking.

    [1] On that flooding; one of the big concerns over the loss of pack ice is that it reflects significantly more sunlight (and thus heat/energy) than open water. Obviously the generated reservoirs are going to be fairly shallow in comparison to an ocean and thus have a different albedo, but depending on how reflective the sand being replaced is that could have some further inputs onto the inevitable changes to the local microclimate, if not the wider climate, that would need to be factored in.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Webweasel on Wednesday November 14 2018, @11:09AM

    by Webweasel (567) on Wednesday November 14 2018, @11:09AM (#761693) Homepage Journal

    Yes, the dust rain. I can make it happen. Every time I wash my car, we get the Sahara rain.

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  • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday November 16 2018, @02:43AM

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 16 2018, @02:43AM (#762483) Homepage Journal

    Dust from the Sahara is seeding clouds in South America, causing rain in the rain forest.