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posted by chromas on Thursday November 15 2018, @05:12AM   Printer-friendly
from the rules-apply-to-both-sides dept.

Russia: We did not hack the US Democrats. But if we did, we're immune from prosecution:

The Russian government has denied having anything to do with hacking the US Democratic party in 2016, although in a court filing this week stressed that even if it did break into the DNC's servers, it is immune from prosecution.

And furthermore the Kremlin claimed America is "one of the most prolific practitioners of cyberattacks and cyber-intrusions on the planet." So, nerr!

"The [Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act] FSIA provides that foreign sovereign states enjoy absolute jurisdictional immunity from suit unless a plaintiff can demonstrate that one of the FSIA's enumerated 'exceptions' applies," argued [PDF] the Russian government this week in a New York court in response to a lawsuit from the DNC.

The DNC claims that it was subject to a "military attack" by Kremlin intelligence, causing Russia to argue back that any act of its military is a sovereign action and so therefore it can't be sued for it.

It's an amazing defense though one the DNC foresaw. It argued in its initial court paperwork [PDF] that "Russia is not entitled to sovereign immunity because the DNC's claims arise out of Russia's trespass onto the DNC's private servers - a tort allegedly committed in the United States.

"In addition, Russia committed the trespass in order to steal trade secrets and commit economic espionage, two forms of commercial activity undertaken in and directly affecting the United States."

Of course this being 2018 and Russia, the Putin administration can't leave it at that, and takes the opportunity to troll the US government by pointing out that the immunity provision is also heavily relied upon by Uncle Sam and its officials abroad.

"The United States benefits significantly from the sovereign immunity that it enjoys (and US officials enjoy) in foreign courts around the world with respect to the United States' frequency acts of cyber intrusion and political interference," Russia's response reads. "As current and former US officials have acknowledged on many occasion, the United States - acting primarily through the National Security Agency (NSA) with the US Department of Defense - is one of the most prolific practitioners of cyberattacks and cyber-intrusions on the planet."

Pot calling the kettle black?


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 15 2018, @07:21AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 15 2018, @07:21AM (#762085)

    All the old rules of politics are falling before this new era of Troll Kings.

    Enjoy [youtube.com] (instrumental, 2:22)

    And the world doesn't explode.

    Takes a while, it isn't quite immediate.

    We are in uncharted territory now, but the world will probably be a better place when it all sorts itself out.

    Heh, yeah. The human species will be no more - eye for an eye and all that - will be better place.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Thursday November 15 2018, @02:26PM (3 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday November 15 2018, @02:26PM (#762162) Journal

    Takes a while, it isn't quite immediate.

    The world has exploded quite a number of times before this. You know, back before leaders said coarse things on twitter. I remember pictures of the leaders who initiated the slaughter of WWI being very urbane. They wore tails and everything. They met in delightful halls with crystal chandeliers.

    Yup, everything was so, so much better before. Saying flippant things on a silly social media platform is totally worse than starting world wars that slaughter tens of millions of people with words that are carefully measured and grammatically correct.

    Heh, yeah. The human species will be no more - eye for an eye and all that - will be better place.

    Indeed the human species is the worst. Soooo much worse than the pesky cyanobacteria that nearly totally exterminated those innocent anaerobic microbes [scientificamerican.com] that preceded them by pumping all that oxygen into the atmosphere. Bad humans! Bad!

    --
    Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 15 2018, @03:01PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 15 2018, @03:01PM (#762182)

      There's some thing you seem to miss through your sarcasm-tinted glasses:

      The human species are doing it knowingly.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 16 2018, @04:35AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 16 2018, @04:35AM (#762534)

        Trump encompasses their class anger. He is their chosen vehicle of catharsis.

        In other words, they're utter morons who have a sexual fetish for voting against their own interests.

        P.T. Barnum could only dream of pulling off such hoaxes.

    • (Score: 2) by Knowledge Troll on Thursday November 15 2018, @04:20PM

      by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Thursday November 15 2018, @04:20PM (#762213) Homepage Journal

      that preceded them by pumping all that oxygen into the atmosphere

      As an oxygen breather I don't often thank the cyanobacteria for poisoning off the rest of the life on earth to make way for us. Thanks bacteria!

      Seriously though I recently learned that this event was a thing. Nature is brutal.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 15 2018, @07:45PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 15 2018, @07:45PM (#762321)

    Enjoy [youtube.com] (instrumental, 2:22)

    Youtube is filled with full choir and part chorus versions in dozen different languages and you link a fucking instrumental? Why not link a piano arrangement for lvl1 Bastien students while you're at it? Or maybe whistle version? I think if you look hard enough you can track down a kazoo rendition as well...

    Here you lazy bastard. As close to the original as it gets. Have at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qAc4qWc7rU [youtube.com]

    ~ The true troll king.