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posted by mrpg on Friday November 16 2018, @02:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the not-so-many-men-are-having-children-either dept.

'Remarkable' decline in fertility rates

There has been a remarkable global decline in the number of children women are having, say researchers.

Their report found fertility rate falls meant nearly half of countries were now facing a "baby bust" - meaning there are insufficient children to maintain their population size.

The researchers said the findings were a "huge surprise".

And there would be profound consequences for societies with "more grandparents than grandchildren".


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 16 2018, @04:45PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 16 2018, @04:45PM (#762732)

    Take Canada for example. A woman need not be married, nor have support, to raise children. The state will ensure she is well taken care of..

    If Canada is like the US in this regard, they will force the ex-husband, boyfriend, sperm donor, statutory rape victim male under threat of prison or suspension of driving license to repay the state.

  • (Score: 2) by Blymie on Saturday November 17 2018, @05:05AM (1 child)

    by Blymie (4020) on Saturday November 17 2018, @05:05AM (#762969)

    These payments have nothing to do with child support. That's separate.

    https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/child-family-benefits/canada-child-benefit-overview/canada-child-benefit-we-calculate-your-ccb.html [canada.ca]

    --

    Basic benefit for July 2018 to June 2019

    We calculate the Canada child benefit (CCB) as follows:

            $6,496 per year ($541.33 per month) for each eligible child under the age of six

            $5,481 per year ($456.75 per month) for each eligible child aged 6 to 17

    --

    Note that there are also:

    - provincial child benefits
    - other grants
    - tax breaks

    EG

    https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/child-family-benefits/provincial-territorial-programs/province-ontario.html#cb [canada.ca]

    --
    The Ontario child benefit (OCB) is a tax-free amount paid to help low- to moderate-income families provide for their children.

    OCB payments are delivered with the Canada child benefit in a single monthly payment. For July 2018 to June 2019, you may be eligible to receive up to $116.91 per month for each child under 18 years of age. If your adjusted family net income is above $21,416, you may receive a partial benefit.
    --

    One should also note that *mostly*, things are fairly standardized here. Here's a chart that judges use, when assigning child support.:

    https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/fl-df/child-enfant/fcsg-lfpae/2017/pdf/ona.pdf [justice.gc.ca]

    It should also be noted that if the male decides to raise the children, then he receives child support from the female. As said here:

    https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/fl-lf/child-enfant/guide/info2.html [justice.gc.ca]

    "Child support is the right of the child"

    It's not about the woman. The focus is on the kid. I think that's the only way to fix this mess. Keep all eyes on "supporting the kid".

    I will say -- it isn't perfect. Nope. But it's better than it was. And it is getting better.

    The real goal here is the concept that:

    - by using tax revenue to ensure children have suitable conditions, you're ensuring society overall pays to raise the next generation
    - with women and men on more equal footing monetarily, it means all women and all men, tend to pay for those raising children

    Also note that, for example, men here have as much right to maternity leave as women. And to highlight that, they've split it into "parental leave" and "pregnancy leave".

    In other words, time off because "it's close to birth time / I just had a kid" and time off because "I'm the parent of a new infant".

    https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act/pregnancy-and-parental-leave [ontario.ca]

    Note that income is supplemented out of the same Employment Insurance fund used for unemployment.

    Again .. it's not perfect. But the goal here, so far, seems to be focused on trying to make it as fair for both sexes as possible.

    I don't know what the outcome of all of this may be. I'm not sure if it's even *right*.

    But if one believes that basic schooling should be paid for by the state.. in other words, "by all of us", the logic is that "everyone must pay for the next generation".

    We have free health care here, so that's covered for kids. The rest of this is somewhat along that line.

    Note that some of the payments above are *reduced*, not cancelled -- reduced, as income increases.

    • (Score: 2) by Blymie on Saturday November 17 2018, @05:15AM

      by Blymie (4020) on Saturday November 17 2018, @05:15AM (#762971)

      Just to add a little bit here.

      There is the federal government, and provincial.

      Provinces all handle employment law differently. The above is for Ontario, but it's similar in most provinces.

      In terms to "leave", the right is not paid leave. So you have the right to be off work for a year, male or female, with a newborn.

      In terms of pay, the EI fund (a federal thing) I mentioned covers 35 weeks of paid leave.. for one parent. Many work places supplement it, and many provinces add to it.

      And both parents can, if they want, take 17 1/2 weeks of EI paid parental fund at the same time.