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posted by takyon on Sunday November 18 2018, @01:13AM   Printer-friendly
from the is-that-a-bone-saw-in-your-pocket? dept.

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C.I.A. Concludes That Saudi Crown Prince Ordered Khashoggi Killed

The Central Intelligence Agency has concluded that the Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, ordered the killing of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi, according to American officials.

The C.I.A. made the assessment based on the crown prince's control of Saudi Arabia, which is such that the killing would not have taken place without his approval, and has buttressed its conclusion with two sets of crucial communications: intercepts of the crown prince's calls in the days before the killing, and calls by the kill team to a senior aide to the crown prince.

[...] The increasingly definitive assessment from the spy agency creates a problem for President Trump, who has tied his administration to Prince Mohammed and proclaimed him the future of Saudi Arabia, a longtime American ally. But the new assessment by the C.I.A. is sure to harden the resolve of lawmakers on Capitol Hill to continue to investigate the killing of Mr. Khashoggi and punish Saudi Arabia.

Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law and senior adviser, has been particularly close to Prince Mohammed. Mr. Kushner has long advocated that a strong relationship with the Saudis is in the United States' interest, and he has pushed to maintain support for the crown prince despite the death of Mr. Khashoggi, who Saudi officials now say was killed with a lethal dose of tranquilizers and dismembered. Previously, Saudi officials said that Mr. Khashoggi had been strangled.

[...] Neither administration officials nor intelligence officers believe the controversy over Mr. Khashoggi will drive Prince Mohammed from power, which is one reason White House officials believe cutting ties with the prince would not be in the interest of the United States.

takyon: The Saudis have denied the reports.

See also: Saudi media ignore US reports on Khashoggi
Top White House Official Involved in Saudi Sanctions Resigns

Previously: Turkey Says that a Missing Critic of the Saudi Government was Killed in Saudi Consulate in Istanbul
Saudi Arabia Reportedly Prepared to Admit Involvement in Journalist's Death


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Sunday November 18 2018, @09:02AM (1 child)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 18 2018, @09:02AM (#763417) Journal

    Whatever gave you the impression that I'm a "true libertarian"? I have mentioned a few times that I have some libertarian leanings. I think of myself as more conservative than anything. And, yet, that political spectrum test tells me that I'm actually a little left of center. So, where does that leave us? I suspect that I'm not a "true libertarian".

    As for sovereignty of the individual - why don't we go back in time. Let us go back to near pre-history, or maybe even pre-history. You are a sovereign being, and you don't have to answer to anyone for anything - except maybe your wife. You live in a village with a dozen, or a hundred other sovereign males, all masters of your own destiny. Some other monkey-like guys from over the mountain want to come into your village and tell you how things should be done. So, Sovereign Monkeyman - are you personally going to fend off all of those Round-the-mountain Monkeys, or do you band together with your fellow Local Monkeys? That is - do you establish the sovereignty of your village, or do you rely on your own individual sovereignty?

    Careful now - your choice here may well decide your survival, and the survival of your mate, your children, and your fellow Local Monkeys.

    Of course, if you die, you'll be replaced by some other monkeys that probably won't be as funny looking as you are. Your buck teeth, your ears sticking way out to here, silly looking crossed eyes, and those ridiculous chicken legs.

    And,before you whine and cry about the choices - survival makes right. It's just that simple.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 18 2018, @07:28PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 18 2018, @07:28PM (#763588)

    People will defend you if you have earned their love and respect. There is no sovereignty without that. Then it's just war and pillaging. Only the predators will prevail which is simply how the universe functions, might makes right. It's the only way to survive. Contentment is death. Still, to be human is to respect absolute individual sovereignty (which still includes self defense), anything else is nothing more than animal savagery. And being sub-human, we can kill (the only good psychopath is a dead psychopath) and eat them as we see fit. Tastes like pork. Yummy!