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posted by Fnord666 on Monday November 19 2018, @07:10PM   Printer-friendly
from the priming-the-pump dept.

No Evidence to Support Link Between Violent Video Games and Behaviour :

In a series of experiments, with more than 3,000 participants, the team demonstrated that video game concepts do not 'prime' players to behave in certain ways and that increasing the realism of violent video games does not necessarily increase aggression in game players.

The dominant model of learning in games is built on the idea that exposing players to concepts, such as violence in a game, makes those concepts easier to use in 'real life'. This is known as 'priming', and is thought to lead to changes in behaviour.  Previous experiments on this effect, however, have so far provided mixed conclusions.

Researchers at the University of York expanded the number of participants in experiments, compared to studies that had gone before it, and compared different types of gaming realism to explore whether more conclusive evidence could be found

[...] "The findings suggest that there is no link between these kinds of realism in games and the kind of effects that video games are commonly thought to have on their players.

"Further study is now needed into other aspects of realism to see if this has the same result. What happens when we consider the realism of by-standing characters in the game, for example, and the inclusion of extreme content, such as torture?

"We also only tested these theories on adults, so more work is needed to understand whether a different effect is evident in children players."

Journal Reference:
David Zendle, Daniel Kudenko, Paul Cairns. Behavioural realism and the activation of aggressive concepts in violent video games. Entertainment Computing, 2018; 24: 21 DOI: 10.1016/j.entcom.2017.10.003


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by bob_super on Monday November 19 2018, @07:23PM (14 children)

    by bob_super (1357) on Monday November 19 2018, @07:23PM (#763978)

    Does the person getting shot in the video game enjoy it ?
    Because in porn, the girl being treated like shit acts as if she enjoys it, biasing the perception that the behavior is acceptable in real life, however painful it actually is.
    Does the violent video game portray being the victim of the violence positively, propping up behavior, or negatively/neutrally ?

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by MostCynical on Monday November 19 2018, @08:07PM (2 children)

    by MostCynical (2589) on Monday November 19 2018, @08:07PM (#763996) Journal

    "That was fun, shoot me again"

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    "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
    • (Score: 2) by edIII on Monday November 19 2018, @10:05PM (1 child)

      by edIII (791) on Monday November 19 2018, @10:05PM (#764033)

      Are we talking about video games or porn?

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      Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by MostCynical on Monday November 19 2018, @10:49PM

        by MostCynical (2589) on Monday November 19 2018, @10:49PM (#764050) Journal

        Yes.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 19 2018, @08:15PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 19 2018, @08:15PM (#764000)

    Because in porn, the girl being treated like shit acts as if she enjoys it, biasing the perception that the behavior is acceptable in real life, however painful it actually is.

    That's a heteronormative and sex-negative view. Have you actually surveyed porn actresses to see what they think, or is that your anti-porn bias talking?

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Monday November 19 2018, @08:40PM (6 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Monday November 19 2018, @08:40PM (#764009)

      I apologize for forgetting to mention that guys and trannies also likely get the shit beat out of them (I'll let others do that research), in ways that essentially all would ellipse as "it pays the bills".

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Mykl on Monday November 19 2018, @11:01PM (4 children)

        by Mykl (1112) on Monday November 19 2018, @11:01PM (#764057)

        I think AC was referring to your assumption that porn actresses who engage in 'rough play' movies never enjoy it. I will freely concede that there are almost certainly individuals in the porn industry who engage in acts purely to 'pay the bills', but I am equally convinced that some of those actors really are enjoying themselves when doing things that you personally don't like.

        • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by mrpg on Tuesday November 20 2018, @02:44AM (3 children)

          by mrpg (5708) Subscriber Badge <{mrpg} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Tuesday November 20 2018, @02:44AM (#764120) Homepage

          https://www.pinkcross.org.au/ [pinkcross.org.au]

          *Warning*: This web site contains large doses of truth about the sex industry for purposes of recovery and education.

          • (Score: 2) by Mykl on Tuesday November 20 2018, @04:01AM (2 children)

            by Mykl (1112) on Tuesday November 20 2018, @04:01AM (#764140)

            Let's recap:

            • I said that some porn actors enjoy what they do and some don't. This was in response to bob_super's post which may have misinterpreted AC's criticism
            • You posted a link to a website supporting people who are recovering from traumatic experiences they had while working in the sex industry. Apart from your warning message, no other context was provided

            Are you suggesting that the existence of this website means that all sex industry workers are being mistreated? It's a bit of long bow.

            By the way, it's not the best site to support your argument re: porn. All of the stories on the site refer to prostitutes rather than porn stars (I would say that there are differences between the two), and the same woman's headshot appears on two different people's stories.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 20 2018, @12:05AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 20 2018, @12:05AM (#764077)

        Holy shit, what kind of porn are you in to?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 19 2018, @10:48PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 19 2018, @10:48PM (#764049)

    Because in porn, the girl being treated like shit acts as if she enjoys it, biasing the perception that the behavior is acceptable in real life, however painful it actually is.

    Porn involves acting. If someone can't separate fantasy from reality, whether that fantasy is porn or a video game, they have severe mental issues.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 19 2018, @10:53PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 19 2018, @10:53PM (#764052)

    You'll notice in some porn they look like they're having fun. In others they don't.
    Over the years I've noticed that there is certainly a sort of man who likes unhappy looking porn. I get the impression that these aren't guys who have lots of sex and the thought of having good sex is more or less foreign to them. I've seen these sorts of guys insist that women don't actually enjoy sex and just let guys do it in order the get stuff from them.

    Anyhow what is this sort of behavior that the woman appears to enjoy and yet must be unenjoyable?
    Getting hammered rhythmically for 45 minutes? Yeah nobody involved likes that. The real reason they do that in porn is because while it's awful sex it's easy to film, edit, and view. Go ahead and look at videos of people screwing on pornhub. Real sex is as visually boring on flim as a real fight. They're not trying to make it real.

    Ironically it's prudes like you who have squashed frank sexual discussion in America and now young people are forced to try and recreate the awkward unenjoyable sex they see on the internet.

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Monday November 19 2018, @10:58PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Monday November 19 2018, @10:58PM (#764055)

      > it's prudes like you

      WTF did that come from ? Not from the comment you're replying to, for sure. Projecting much ?