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posted by takyon on Friday November 23 2018, @09:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the bad-vs.-worse dept.

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Cloudflare Sued for Failing to Terminate Repeat Infringers

In a new complaint filed at a California federal court, Cloudflare stands accused of contributing to, aiding, and abetting copyright infringements. The company fails to terminate customers who are repeatedly called out and is therefore liable, the argument goes. The case in question was not filed by Hollywood or the major record labels, but by two manufacturers of wedding dresses.

[...] In 2016 Cloudflare was sued for contributory copyright infringement by adult publisher ALS Scan. This case ended in a confidential settlement this summer, but now there's more trouble on the horizon for the company.

The new threat doesn't come from any of the major entertainment industry players, but from two manufacturers and wholesalers of wedding dresses. Not a typical "piracy" lawsuit, but it's a copyright case that could have broad effects. In a complaint filed at a federal court in California, Mon Cheri Bridals and Maggie Sottero Designs argue that Cloudflare fails to terminate sites of counterfeit vendors after multiple warnings. This makes Cloudflare liable for the associated copyright infringements, they add.


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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday November 23 2018, @09:15PM (5 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday November 23 2018, @09:15PM (#765672) Journal

    https://soylentnews.org/search.pl?tid=&query=cloudflare&author=&sort=2&op=stories [soylentnews.org]

    They get a bad rep here for handling of Tor, JavaScript, and funneling so many websites through a single system. But they appear to provide useful anti-DDoS protection for their customers and have a tendency towards net freedom.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Arik on Friday November 23 2018, @11:31PM (4 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Friday November 23 2018, @11:31PM (#765730) Journal
    "They get a bad rep here for handling of Tor, JavaScript, and funneling so many websites through a single system."

    "Bad handling" is a monumental understatement.

    They're absolutely fraudulent, when a site moves to them it is effectively removed from the web entirely; it's gone.

    If the enemy of my enemy is my friend, then these plaintiff's are everyone's friend, because cloudflare is certainly humanity's enemy.

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by takyon on Friday November 23 2018, @11:46PM (2 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday November 23 2018, @11:46PM (#765736) Journal

      If you want real freedom on the internet, you won't find it on the surface web. But Cloudflare offers convenience and reliability, and I'm pretty sure you are capable of accessing Cloudflare sites if you choose to. They aren't "gone", you are just refusing to play ball (except they now have a solution for Tor access [cloudflare.com]).

      We need to build decentralized systems for communicating and sharing information.

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      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Arik on Saturday November 24 2018, @12:19AM (1 child)

        by Arik (4543) on Saturday November 24 2018, @12:19AM (#765743) Journal
        Actually you're wrong. I do find it; it's just that bit by bit it's going away.

        What cloudflare 'offers' me is the replacement of the webpage that I am looking for with a page which insultingly (and idiotically) suggests that I need to enable ecmascript to prove that I'm a human being.

        There's no way to justify that, there's no excuse for that, it's straight up broken, and on top of being broken it *lies.* It lies in a way that is deeply wrong, this is not just promoting falsehood as 'fact' it's attacking the deep foundation of truth directly.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 24 2018, @11:20AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 24 2018, @11:20AM (#765855)

          Actually you're wrong. I do find it; it's just that bit by bit it's going away.

          The only places that remotely resemble the pre-Gamergate internet are Voat and 8chan and there are so many Nazis and morons concentrated in those places that they're hardly worth using. Try building an alternative to any mainstream site and you'll get DDOSed, flooded out by trolls, banned by your payment processor, smeared as "alt-right" in the press, etc, etc, and if you're doing it as a hobby you're likely to be fired from your real job without any explanation.

          Nobody could create, say, rotten.com or newgrounds today. You can't have a liberal anti-authoritarian site that says Islam is a hate group and transgenderism is made-up bullshit. A bunch of feminists were banned by Wordpress for this this week. You can't even make Tumblr today, as Tumblr recently found out.

          Everybody aggressively denies that there is any pressure from any advertiser, government, or pressure group when they ban people. Suggesting that there might be such pressure will also get you smeared as "alt-right" in the press, fired from your job, etc.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 24 2018, @01:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 24 2018, @01:49PM (#765872)

      maybe i am just a bad person with bad thoughts, but what is keeping cloudflare from hiring
      professional ddos-ers to nuke your site until you submit and join the fold of cloudflares warm embrace?

      just this (and the pain comeing from using tor) rubs me the wrong way.

      i guess the way the internet works today, this sort of plant had to grow from it?