Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

posted by Fnord666 on Monday November 26 2018, @10:43PM   Printer-friendly
from the don't-forget-to-say-goodbye dept.

Elon Musk Says There's a '70 Percent' Chance He'll Move to Mars:

Elon Musk has talked about personally heading to Mars before, but how likely is he to make the trip, really? Well, he just put a number on it. In an interview for the Axios on HBO documentary series, Musk said there was a "70 percent" chance he'll go to Mars. There have been a "recent number of breakthroughs" that have made it possible, he said. And as he hinted before, it'd likely be a one-way trip -- he expects to "move there."

The executive also rejected the idea that traveling to Mars could be an "escape hatch for the rich" in its current form. He noted that an ad for going to Mars would be "like Shackleton's ad for going to the Antarctic," which (though likely not real) made clear how dangerous and the South Pole journey was. Even if you make it to Mars, you'll spend all your time building the base and struggling to survive harsh conditions, Musk said. And while it might be possible to come back, it's far from guaranteed. As with climbing Everest, Musk believes it's all about the "challenge."

The interview is available on YouTube.


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 27 2018, @12:41AM (12 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 27 2018, @12:41AM (#766727) Journal
    Unless, of course, it is not like that. But then again, what spot on Earth is perfectly self-sustaining without any need for economic inputs from the rest of the world? Maybe some primitive tribes, right?
  • (Score: 3, Touché) by richtopia on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:20AM (2 children)

    by richtopia (3160) on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:20AM (#766736) Homepage Journal
    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:29AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:29AM (#766742)

      He said "Perfectly self-sustained". North Korea is far from it.
      It's not because they claim "Juche" that they are... Similarly, they are called the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea", they're barely 1/8th of it: They're not democratic, they're not of the people, they are not a republic and they're only one half of Korea.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 27 2018, @02:31AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 27 2018, @02:31AM (#766769)

        The better half.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by suburbanitemediocrity on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:20AM (4 children)

    by suburbanitemediocrity (6844) on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:20AM (#766737)

    what spot on Earth is perfectly self-sustaining without any need for economic inputs from the rest of the world

    Many many places. Most places on Earth in fact. Even aboriginal Australia and northern Canada had long term self sustaining groups with little to no external trade.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:43AM (3 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:43AM (#766749) Journal
      "Had".
      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday November 27 2018, @05:29AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 27 2018, @05:29AM (#766825) Journal

        They still can do it, if left alone.

        --
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 27 2018, @07:14AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 27 2018, @07:14AM (#766845)

        Yah, "had" because it turns out iff you show up with a NorthMart and kill all the caribou and sell them booze out the ear, people get onto that teat.

        Economic and cultural slavery, in this instance, is still slavery.

        Those living conditions could recur again if you know, we don't kill all the whales and cariboo.

        Now get the fuck off my lawn, invader.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 27 2018, @10:03AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 27 2018, @10:03AM (#766870) Journal

          Economic and cultural slavery, in this instance, is still slavery.

          Except that the adjectives indicate otherwise. It's interesting how often people bring up these false equivalences.

          Those living conditions could recur again if you know, we don't kill all the whales and cariboo.

          I'm not killing them. Go bug the people who actually are doing that.

          Now get the fuck off my lawn, invader.

          Too late for that. I'm just as native to my region as you are to yours.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:23AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:23AM (#766738)
    Any agriculturally viable location is self-sustaining, as long as we talk about keeping humans alive. (If you raise the goalposts or move the plank, the whole Universe is not enough.) Earth happens to have plenty of good agricultural locations - sunlight, living soil, clean water, pollinating bugs, nutrients, air with proper temperature and speed, as little as possible of ionizing radiation... Before the industrial revolution all humans lived this way, without input from the rest of the world, not just tribes - producers of goods had no efficient means to move around, move goods and trade them, everything was highly localized.
    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:54AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 27 2018, @01:54AM (#766756) Journal

      Any agriculturally viable location can be self-sustaining for the level of population that it can support with said agriculture

      FTFY. Hong Kong, for an extreme example, is not self-sustaining because it has orders of magnitude more people in the spot than can be supported with local agriculture at current technology levels.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 27 2018, @05:11AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 27 2018, @05:11AM (#766819)

    Maybe some primitive tribes, right?

    Right [wikipedia.org]
    The thing is you don't know if they reached or not the happiness, you only know that you are entitled to pursue it. From this perspective, they may well be ahead of you.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 27 2018, @10:13AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 27 2018, @10:13AM (#766871) Journal
      What does happiness have to do with self-sustaining? And a group that murderously paranoid might not be all that happy.