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posted by chromas on Tuesday November 27 2018, @11:23PM   Printer-friendly
from the beat-it,-don't-eat-it dept.

Phys.org:

Dr. Helen Harwatt, farmed animal law and policy fellow at Harvard Law School, advises that getting protein from plant sources instead of animal sources would drastically help in meeting climate targets and reduce the risk of overshooting temperature goals.

For the first time, Dr. Harwatt proposes a three-step strategy to gradually replace animal proteins with plant-sourced proteins, as part of the commitment to mitigate climate change. These are:

1) Acknowledging that current numbers of livestock are at their peak and will need to decline ('peak livestock').

2) Set targets to transition away from livestock products starting with foods linked with the highest greenhouse gas emissions such as beef, then cow's milk and pig meat ('worst-first' approach).

3) Assessing suitable replacement products against a range of criteria including greenhouse gas emission targets, land usage, and public health benefits ('best available food' approach).

Harwatt further elaborates that recent evidence shows, in comparison with the current food system, switching from animals to plants proteins, could potentially feed an additional 350 million people in the US alone.

You can eat plants or insects, but not meat.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by edIII on Wednesday November 28 2018, @04:45AM (5 children)

    by edIII (791) on Wednesday November 28 2018, @04:45AM (#767211)

    LOL! In all seriousness, the people that should've been doing it in the first place. Local programmers.

    I'm not saying Indian coders are complete shit, but they usually produce shit. Not because they don't know what they are doing, they're brilliant programmers everywhere, but because project management is just too damn difficult. Outsourcing like that usually doesn't work unless you have a project manager that is on top of them 24/7/365.

    A local group of programmers that can physically see other, work in the same timezone, take regular meetings, is more preferable to some random Indian programmer who has to struggle with poorly defined projects, goals, etc. Especially when he can't pick up the phone and speak with me, or ask questions, or demonstrate code, etc. I'm asleep, or he is killing himself working in the middle of the night to be there with me. That isn't great for a lot of Indians health either, and many struggle with depression from what I've heard. Which leads to poor code.

    Outsourcing to India has been a disaster for everyone that I know that has tried. Unless you spend a significant amount of money to find higher quality... which leads you right back to hiring locally.

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  • (Score: 2) by NewNic on Wednesday November 28 2018, @05:18AM (4 children)

    by NewNic (6420) on Wednesday November 28 2018, @05:18AM (#767214) Journal

    During my career, I have worked with and managed outsourced projects. All successful.

    Things have probably changed, but in the beginning, it was difficult to get one Indian programmer to talk to another Indian programmer and then tell us what they had decided. Instead, issues tended to be relayed between Indian programmers via someone in Europe or the USA. The guys in India were afraid to make decisions.

    In my later years of working with Indian engineers, they were recruited almost exclusively from IIT -- so you knew from the outset you were likely to get smart people.

    There is the issue that if you let the beancounters manage it, they will find the cheapest outsourcing solution. Cheap does not usually mean good.

    So, yes outsourcing engineering to India can go badly. But it can also go well, as long as you don't go too cheap.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by edIII on Wednesday November 28 2018, @06:14AM (1 child)

      by edIII (791) on Wednesday November 28 2018, @06:14AM (#767229)

      You may have identified my problem:

      beancounters

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 28 2018, @06:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 28 2018, @06:43PM (#767408)

        So if we switch to vegetable protein, there will be less beans for them to count, so less bean counters.

        And to think I was initially against this proposal.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 28 2018, @06:27AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 28 2018, @06:27AM (#767235)

      There is the issue that if you let the beancounters manage it, they will find the cheapest outsourcing solution. Cheap does not usually mean good.

      Cheap. Quick. Good.

      Pick two, because you'll never get all three at the same time.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 28 2018, @08:07AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 28 2018, @08:07AM (#767249)

        Most places I've seen you're lucky to get one. Two would be a fucking miracle.