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posted by chromas on Wednesday November 28 2018, @01:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the Keynesian-bikenomics dept.

BBCTech:

What is claimed to be the UK's first dockless electric bike hire service has begun, despite the risk of vandalism.

Lime said its motor-assisted bikes in Milton Keynes would be accessible for people of any age or fitness level.

They can be unlocked for £1, ridden for 15p per minute, then parked anywhere "responsibly" after use.

Santander pedal bikes can already be rented in the town for £1 per 30 minutes, but over half were vandalised and not in use during summer 2017.

More bikesharing makes it more convenient to cycle, but will drivers share the road?


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Pino P on Wednesday November 28 2018, @03:05PM (6 children)

    by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday November 28 2018, @03:05PM (#767310) Journal

    Red and green. Learn the bloody difference.

    What's the appropriate course of action when a cyclist pulls up to a demand-actuated intersection and stops the bike over the induction loop, with its wheels making a chord of the circle, but the signal controller fails to detect the bike because it has nowhere near as much metal surface as a car? At times, I've seen induction loops that can't pick up a bicycle and a motorcycle put together, and the signal set continues to alternate between a through phase for cross traffic (primary) and a through and turn phase for oncoming traffic. A few jurisdictions have a "dead red" law allowing a cyclist to proceed with caution after a full cycle or a reasonable time, as if the signal had become a stop sign, but not all.

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  • (Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Wednesday November 28 2018, @11:21PM (5 children)

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 28 2018, @11:21PM (#767560) Journal

    Just another example of why mixing a fragile, difficult to see and unpredictable means of transportation with fast moving one ton vehicles is bad for everyone.
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    Bikes are promoted at the expense of normal vehicles. Idiot burbs either take away from existing carrying capacity (happened here) or expand into bike lanes when there is insufficient capacity for normal traffic and road expansion is sorely needed. If politicians were able to address the roads and bikelanes at the same time that would be great, however in the real world there is simply NO capacity to chew bubblegum and walk simultaneously. Because of this we get reduction in carrying capacity, neglect of vital infrastructure, and shoulders turned into bikelanes that are so close that cars can't pass safely, interspersed with areas without bikelanes at all. Cars must proceed at 20mph instead of 45mph or veer into oncoming traffic. Oh, and heaven forbid someone out on a joyride should get off the road and let the caravan of vehicles stacked up behind them get on their way.
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      - Stop carving away safety margins for vehicles.
      - if a car would get a ticket at a particular speed for obstructing traffic, so should a bike.
      - Get bikes out of the motorways and work out how to make them pay for their own infrastructure.
      - If more room is needed to safely accommodate bike ways, then fight the damned fight and eminent domain or purchase it. (and no, this shouldn't be something you can eminent domain, but that's a separate discussion...)
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    In a related rant, I'd be a lot happier if people would learn to walk on the correct side of the road. Although I suppose if you aren't going to look up from your smartphone regardless it doesn't matter so much.
    I believe the ticket for this is $125 here, and I bet it's never been enforced. By my crude count, the rate is about 50% walk with traffic, 50% against in my area.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @12:26AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @12:26AM (#767586)

      the rate is about 50% walk with traffic, 50% against in my area

      Which one are you advocating for?

      • (Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:32AM

        by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:32AM (#767707) Journal

        Howdy Neighbor!
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        When walking on the road, you should always do so facing traffic.

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    • (Score: 2) by http on Thursday November 29 2018, @08:17AM (1 child)

      by http (1920) on Thursday November 29 2018, @08:17AM (#767674)

      It's OK, you're allowed to say "I do not know how infrastructure is funded."

      Car owners and drivers, as such, contribute jack shit to roads.

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      • (Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:28AM

        by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:28AM (#767706) Journal

        You just did.

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    • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Thursday November 29 2018, @01:33PM

      by Pino P (4721) on Thursday November 29 2018, @01:33PM (#767723) Journal

      if a car would get a ticket at a particular speed for obstructing traffic, so should a bike.

      I've seen state laws to the following effect: If a slow-moving vehicle is an obstruction, and there is no right* turn only lane to the right, the vehicle's operator must pull over to allow faster traffic to overtake. A stopped vehicle is considered an obstruction, and a vehicle moving at less than half the posted speed limit is presumed one if followed by at least three motorists. 15 in 25 is not an obstruction; 15 in 40 is yes an obstruction.

      By my crude count, [pedestrian traffic] is about 50% walk with traffic, 50% against in my area.

      Laws against jaywalking don't help get pedestrians onto the correct side. Nor do areas with many one-way streets.

      * Assuming driving on the right