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posted by martyb on Thursday November 29 2018, @10:37PM   Printer-friendly
from the misery-loves-company dept.

It's already one of the coldest and snowiest starts to the winter season in parts of the Northeast, Midwest and Plains, and we haven't finished November yet.

According to the Accumulated Winter Season Severity Index (AWSSI) from the Midwest Regional Climate Center, 74 cities from New England to the Plains and Rockies have seen an extreme season-to-date of cold and snow as of Nov. 27.

[...]

Cities categorized as having an extreme winter, so far, ranked in the 99th percentile of the index for Nov. 27.

A combination of persistent cold from the Northeast to the Plains and a pair of expansive winter storms, Avery and then Bruce, gave this winter season a fast start.

https://weather.com/news/weather/news/2018-11-27-winter-misery-index-awssi-extreme-start-november-2018

Solar cycle 24 was exceptionally weak and cycle 25 is shaping up to be similar. Some have predicted that, if the trend continues, Earth may experience a "mini ice age" soon due to increased cloud formation reflecting the warming light from the sun: https://astronomynow.com/2015/07/17/diminishing-solar-activity-may-bring-new-ice-age-by-2030/


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @10:56PM (20 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @10:56PM (#767988)

    Interestingly, winter is not found in any European art until the 1400s [wikipedia.org]. This coincides approximately with the beginning of the so-called Little Ice Age [wikipedia.org].

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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:05PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:05PM (#767999)

    Moron. That's because white paint was only invented in 1406.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:16PM (#768008)

      Source? I see plenty of white paint used before that. Then wikipedia pissed me off so much with all its javascript, so I stopped for now and installed noscript.

      Here is an example with white paint from 12th century:
      http://www.webexhibits.org/pigments/intro/medieval.html [webexhibits.org]

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by ikanreed on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:34PM (15 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:34PM (#768021) Journal

    You

    Early European painters generally did not depict snow since most of their paintings were of religious subjects. The first artistic representations of snow came in the 15th and 16th centuries.[1] Because frequent snowfall is a part of winter in northern European countries, depiction of snow in Europe began first in the northern European countries

    are

    Initially, this was probably due to European painters simply not recognising any natural scenery in their works, let alone climatic conditions. In early medieval times, the main purpose of art was to glorify God. In accordance with strict Christian teaching, the focus had therefore come to be on the spiritual world (it never rains in heaven), and earthly things tended to be denigrated or spurned. Added to this, worldly physical sensations were devalued. The 12th century monk St Anselm expressed this in an extreme form when he declared that things were harmful in proportion to the number of senses which they delighted; he would therefore rate it dangerous to sit in a garden where there were roses to satisfy the senses of sight and smell, and songs and stories to please the ears

    fucking

    This was especially so in the case of winter-time – if people were primarily interested only in tame nature, this was the season when it was at its least welcoming. Furthermore, painting in general was significantly conditioned by Italian art which, because of that country’s climate, did not normally feature harsh, wintry conditions [3]. In addition, especially in agrarian societies, little outside work other than essential hunting was carried on outdoors during this time of year. People in these societies tended to stay inside during winter, sheltering from the cold; the bitter outdoors was simply not a place to linger or admire, let alone depict [4].

    retarded

    The early 14th century painter Giotto [9] was one of the first Western painters of his time to depict realistic human gestures and expressions in recognisable, earthbound surroundings. However, Giotto often had difficulty in recreating the surroundings where they included the natural world. Paintings of this era commonly featured improbable, concrete-like rocks from which conventionally-realised trees and plants sometimes magically sprouted. The suggestion of Giotto’s follower Cennino Cennini that a good way of depicting mountains was to get some large rough stones and portray them from nature illustrated both the virtues and the limitations of this approach [10].

    This [artinsociety.com] was fucking Italy in 1390 you insufferable piece of shit. Stop using the most tangential connections your conservativism addled brain can come up with to excuse your special and extraordinary stupidity with regards to basic science.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:47PM (11 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:47PM (#768035)

      All I see is speculation there. Is there like a declaration by the church not to paint snow because it wasn't mentioned in the bible? I mean it sounds reasonable, but what is the evidence for any of that? Also, some of those quotes don't seem to be from the wikipedia page I linked to. Where are they from?

      This was fucking Italy in 1390 you insufferable piece of shit.

      Is there a name for this painting? Is that the earliest you could find? Year 1390 is close enough for the original coincidence to hold (Little Ice Age started ~1300).

      And I am sorry you have had all curiosity drummed out of you via adoption of toxic political views. I don't know how else to explain a post like this one.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by aristarchus on Friday November 30 2018, @12:22AM (10 children)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Friday November 30 2018, @12:22AM (#768052) Journal

        I do. Trust me on this.

          Where is frojack when we need him? AGW deniers have become so crude of late, almost Trumpish, for some reason. Must be the solar cycle.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @12:41AM (8 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @12:41AM (#768066)

          AGW deniers have become so crude of late, almost Trumpish, for some reason. Must be the solar cycle.

          Solar cycle may be, it may be not.
          A pity ethics doesn't allow for the use of them as subjects, there would be many hypotheses to test in trying to get an explanation (assuming there is one).
          Also, they are so naturally suited for 'double blind' type of studies.

          • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday November 30 2018, @12:52AM (7 children)

            by aristarchus (2645) on Friday November 30 2018, @12:52AM (#768073) Journal

            so naturally suited for 'double blind' type of studies.

            None are so blind as those that are 'double-blind' and will not see!!

            (working on closing my quote tags. . . .)

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 30 2018, @02:37AM (6 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 30 2018, @02:37AM (#768121) Journal

              So - you're ready to admit that global warming has been happening for thousands of years, with or without any input from man? How long ago did the ice age end? Of course, global warming started long before the end of the ice age. If it hadn't, the ice age wouldn't have ended! Yes, there truly are none so blind as he who will not see.

              Meanwhile, the beavers are conquering the Alaskan northwest. https://www.alaskapublic.org/2018/07/11/beavers-are-moving-into-the-arctic-you-can-see-it-from-space/ [alaskapublic.org]

              • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday November 30 2018, @04:23AM (4 children)

                by aristarchus (2645) on Friday November 30 2018, @04:23AM (#768149) Journal

                Truly, Runaway, Truly you are obtuse, in a rather baroque fashion. I have no idea what you are trying to say. Is this about your six-grade teacher and the "coming ice age" thing, again? Or do you just have a thing about beavers?

                • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @05:19AM (3 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @05:19AM (#768178)

                  Truly you are obtuse, in a rather baroque fashion

                  With a head start of a couple of millennia, you're safe; he still has some work to get to a rocaille level of obtuseness.

                  Is this about your six-grade teacher and the "coming to ice age" thing

                  FTFY... a troubled childhood he had. Truly.

                  Or do you just have a thing about beavers?

                  A bit more grown up than the infantile master buzz, with his fixation on boobs.
                  But now, who are you to cast value judgements on what keeps their mast red and raised?

                  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 30 2018, @02:56PM (2 children)

                    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 30 2018, @02:56PM (#768283) Journal

                    Not sure whether you deserve +1 funny or +1 hilarious. Doesn't matter though, 'cause I can't find the hilarious button.

                    • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday December 01 2018, @07:13AM (1 child)

                      by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday December 01 2018, @07:13AM (#768572) Journal

                      Doesn't matter though, 'cause I can't find the hilarious button.

                      That will happen more and more, Runaway, as you mentally deteriorate right in front of God and everybody here on SolylentNews. I can understand how you cannot find the "Hilaryioius" button, your engrams having been fried by Faux News. And I can understand how you cannot find the "funny" button", since your sense of humor is conservative, which means you can only make funny by denigrating others, you lowlife hillbilly pig fucker! Oh, oh dear! Did I stoop to your level? And you cannot recognize it as such? You really need to just shut the fuck up, Runaway, your "opinions" are of no use to anyone but your own pathetic self esteem. And if you did not understand the parent post, I suggest you, 1. Learn Engllsh and 2. practice reading comprehension. But beyond that, just shut the fuck up, because your opinions are of no matter except that they are your opinions, and the only reason they are even that is that SoylentNews does not censor anyone, not matter how fucked-in-the-head, Batshit-crazy, or just plain khallow they are. Looking for the "Rural Arkansawian Hillbilly totally snookered by an Australian con-man and a New York Real Estate con artist. How dumb do you have to be to fall for BOTH of these, Runaway, you ignorant slut?

                      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 01 2018, @09:34AM

                        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 01 2018, @09:34AM (#768587) Journal

                        That will happen more and more, Runaway

                        The voice of experience.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 04 2018, @10:14PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 04 2018, @10:14PM (#769795)

                https://xkcd.com/1732/ [xkcd.com]

                More oblig then usual.

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @02:31PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @02:31PM (#768272)

          Hmm, I don't know. I haven't seen frojack in a long while.

          .

          I ran a 8 year experiment back in the 80s when one of the art stores was singing the praises of their bio-degradable medieval paintings. Tacked a couple to the sunny side of a shed, and staked a couple more on the ground. Ten years later my wife took them down and threw them in the recycle when we moved out of that house.

          Statute of limitations on false advertising had already expired.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:55PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29 2018, @11:55PM (#768042)

      Look here:

      They also suggested that it might be possible to expand Burroughs’ (1981) finding of a connection between the onset of the Little Ice Age and the resultant winter landscapes in The Netherlands. Since he wrote, our under- standing of the nature and causes of the Little Ice Age and our knowledge of art history have greatly expanded; so now it is possible to suggest some links between art and climate for virtually the whole of the Little Ice Age period.

      https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1256/wea.164.03 [wiley.com]

      So I am not the first "fucking retarded" to notice this coincidence.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @12:50AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @12:50AM (#768071)

      I must say it amuses me to see other users finally having had enough of the bullshit around here. Such ignorance paired with a lack of reading comprehension should be punishable by having them test out of k-12 one grade at a time.

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday November 30 2018, @01:45PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday November 30 2018, @01:45PM (#768261) Journal

        Online forums are supposed to work that way, ie. everyone speaking up. It's not an environment for those who cannot put their big boy pants on, to be sure, but it is equal opportunity.

        --
        Washington DC delenda est.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @06:34AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @06:34AM (#768191)

    Did you somehow fail to read more than the first sentence of the first article you link to? The next two sentences already give an explanation that contradicts yours:

    The depiction of winter landscapes in Western art begins in the 15th century. Wintry and snowy landscapes are not seen in early European painting since most of the subjects were religious. Painters avoided landscapes in general for the same reason.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @03:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30 2018, @03:47PM (#768310)

      No, but I can tell the difference between speculation and facts. I dont just blindly believe what I read, on wikipedia or otherwise.