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posted by takyon on Thursday December 06 2018, @05:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the watch-the-front-door dept.

Former diplomat challenges 'fake' Guardian claims about Julian Assange meeting Paul Manafort

The Canary previously reported on criticisms from WikiLeaks and others which stressed that Guardian claims about [former Trump campaign manager Paul] Manafort meeting Assange in 2013, 2015 and March 2016 were false.

WikiLeaks said it was preparing to sue the Guardian on the matter. And Manafort is also considering legal action, saying this story is "totally false and deliberately libellous".

Narváez was initially consul and then first secretary at the Ecuadorian Embassy from 2010 to July 2018. He has now told The Canary that, to his knowledge, Manafort made no visits at any time during that period. He insisted:

"It is impossible for any visitor to enter the embassy without going through very strict protocols and leaving a clear record: obtaining written approval from the ambassador, registering with security personnel, and leaving a copy of ID. The embassy is the most surveilled on Earth; not only are there cameras positioned on neighbouring buildings recording every visitor, but inside the building every movement is recorded with CCTV cameras, 24/7. In fact, security personnel have always spied on Julian and his visitors. It is simply not possible that Manafort visited the embassy."

takyon: Paul Manafort did, however, speak to the Ecuadorian President Lenin Moreno about the potential removal of Julian Assange from the embassy in London:

The President of Ecuador spoke with Paul Manafort about his desire to remove Julian Assange from the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, a Manafort spokesperson confirmed Monday. "When Mr. Manafort met with President Moreno of Ecuador to discuss the China Development Fund, the president raised with Mr. Manafort his desire to remove Julian Assange from Ecuador's embassy," Jason Maloni, a Manafort spokesman, told CNN in a statement. "Mr. Manafort listened but made no promises as this was ancillary to the purpose of the meeting," Maloni's statement added. "There was no mention of Russia at the meeting."

The New York Times was first to report that President Lenin Moreno and his aides had expressed their desire to have Assange leave the embassy in at least two meetings with Manafort in exchange for concessions from the US like debt relief, citing three people familiar with the talks. Assange has been holed up at the Ecuadorian embassy, since 2012.

See also: Manafort denies ever meeting with Assange
Did Someone Plant a Story Tying Paul Manafort to Julian Assange?


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  • (Score: 2) by legont on Friday December 07 2018, @02:01AM (9 children)

    by legont (4179) on Friday December 07 2018, @02:01AM (#770991)

    So, for the record, we assume Huawei girl committed a crime in Canada.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday December 07 2018, @05:43AM (8 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 07 2018, @05:43AM (#771041) Journal

    So, for the record, we assume Huawei girl committed a crime in Canada.

    Nope, merely that what she is being arrested for is considered a crime in both Canada and the US.

    • (Score: 2) by legont on Friday December 07 2018, @05:53AM (7 children)

      by legont (4179) on Friday December 07 2018, @05:53AM (#771043)

      I can't see much of the difference between mine statement and yours, so let me try it differently. The girl violated Canadian law.

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      • (Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Friday December 07 2018, @07:02AM (6 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 07 2018, @07:02AM (#771060) Journal

        The girl violated Canadian law.

        Again, that's not right. She broke a law in the US which was also considered illegal in Canada. That's why she's being extradited to the US rather than tried in Canada.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday December 07 2018, @07:38AM (2 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 07 2018, @07:38AM (#771073) Journal
          To be more accurate, she is alleged to have broken US law. A fair trial is one of the key assumptions behind extradition.
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 07 2018, @08:00PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 07 2018, @08:00PM (#771284)

            Could you just sense me about to throw your own words in your face? lololol fookin blookin mate!

            • (Score: 2, TouchĂ©) by khallow on Friday December 07 2018, @11:33PM

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 07 2018, @11:33PM (#771341) Journal
              Being able to anticipate possible criticisms of one's writing or beliefs is a sign of rational thinking. Try it sometime.
        • (Score: 2) by legont on Friday December 07 2018, @06:57PM (2 children)

          by legont (4179) on Friday December 07 2018, @06:57PM (#771264)

          I still don't get it, sorry. Let me use an example. Suppose she killed a man in the US. Canada would send her to face a trial in the US because killing is against the law in Canada. If killing would be legal in Canada, my understanding is that she would not be extradited.

          Hence my question (sorry for perhaps bad legal lingo) what was that she done which is against the law in Canada. Well, that's perhaps sealed but we assume there is something she did which is against the Canadian law.

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          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday December 08 2018, @02:15AM (1 child)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 08 2018, @02:15AM (#771400) Journal

            Hence my question (sorry for perhaps bad legal lingo) what was that she done which is against the law in Canada. Well, that's perhaps sealed but we assume there is something she did which is against the Canadian law.

            Sounds like violation of sanctions against Iran. Canada is on board with those, I gather.

            • (Score: 2) by legont on Saturday December 08 2018, @04:54AM

              by legont (4179) on Saturday December 08 2018, @04:54AM (#771438)

              OK, the news just came out. She is accused of lying to banks about Huawei dealings with some Hong Kong company under sanctions back in 2013. They got her on, basically, a fraud. Up to 30 years in prison. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/07/technology/huawei-meng-wanzhou-fraud.html [nytimes.com]

              Well, this - lying to a bank - would be a crime pretty much anywhere. This is bad as it makes it virtually impossible to settle any time soon.

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