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posted by martyb on Sunday December 09 2018, @12:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the technology dept.

A simple device that can capture its own weight in water from fresh air and then release that water when warmed by sunlight could provide a secure new source of drinking water in remote arid regions, new research from KAUST (King Abdullah University of Science & Technology) suggests.

At the heart of the device is the cheap, stable, nontoxic salt, calcium chloride. This deliquescent salt has such a high affinity for water that it will absorb so much vapor from the surrounding air that eventually a pool of liquid forms.

https://www.rtoz.org/2018/12/07/drinking-water-sucked-from-the-dusty-desert-air-using-hybrid-hydrogel/

The full research paper is available on-line.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 09 2018, @01:12PM (11 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 09 2018, @01:12PM (#771903) Journal

    There have been several stories about pulling water from the atmosphere, in the past year or so. That's cool and all, but, how does that fit into the big picture? Isn't the net effect to make the area yet more arid?

    Pulling your drinking water from the air is really cool - even I could probably survive in a desert if I'm carrying something like that. But, won't it make a whole lot more sense to desalinate ocean water, and pump it into the desert? With that, you're reclaiming desert land.

    To me, it looks like this is good, or very good, but people could spend their time and effort a little more wisely. Opinions?

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday December 09 2018, @01:19PM (2 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday December 09 2018, @01:19PM (#771904) Journal

    We should be using desalination with graphene. Much of the world's population lives within a couple hundred kilometers of a coast.

    Y Combinator Unveils Another Climate Change "Moonshot": Flood a Desert [soylentnews.org]

    Congrats, you think like a venture capitalist.

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    • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:37PM

      by Immerman (3985) on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:37PM (#771977)

      Yep, which is why it's great that MIT has worked out a roll-to-roll process to produce high-quality graphene sheets at industrial scales. http://news.mit.edu/2018/manufacturing-graphene-rolls-ultrathin-membranes-0418 [mit.edu]

      I'm really looking forward to the things industrial-scale graphene will make possible.

      I'm also wondering if this roll-to-roll process creates long thin strips of continuous graphene, and if so, how the strength and durability of a strip of rolled-up graphene compares to a multiwalled carbon nanotube.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by realDonaldTrump on Tuesday December 11 2018, @02:43AM

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Tuesday December 11 2018, @02:43AM (#772728) Homepage Journal

      Beautiful Clean Coal is our answer to Climate Change, otherwise known as the Global Warming. And it's our answer to many things. Because Clean Coal from West Virginia is a great source of Graphene. Big thanks to our West Virginia Clean Coal miners!!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @01:29PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @01:29PM (#771907)

    Desalination is a good idea, but it is expensive, has high energy requirements, and the water needs to travel hundreds (or thousands) of miles to get to everyone who needs it.

    This isn't intended to replace desalination. It's a very low cost, low energy solution that works where the water isn't. Maintenance on this is basically nonexistent.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @01:57PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @01:57PM (#771913)

    you pull the water from the air, then drink it and then it ... vanishes.
    duh, obviously not. you pee it out after it has lubricated your body and then *poof* it evaporates leaving behind all the
    crap your body doesn't want to use anymore.

    it think the only way to dehumidify the global air pool is to pull lots of water from the air, make ALOT of meatbags VERY VERY
    quickly, pour water into them so it is contained and cannot return to the air :P

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:17PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:17PM (#771919) Journal

      Point taken. It's like a beer - you can't buy it, you can only rent it. You can't even sign a long-term lease on it, just short term rental.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:08PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:08PM (#771916)

    Set up a chain of nuclear (or renewables if the capacity wasn't cost prohibitive) power plants going from the california coast, across nevada, to Utah. Rather than desalinating the water, just sterilize it for foreign microbes then pump it up into the great salt lake basin and the nearby lakebeds in Utah and Nevada, including the areas surrounding the bonneville salt flats. With the continually renewing source of saltwater brine the local ecology would become more humid, there would be a renewable source of salt without eroding the salt flats, and there would be an increase in freshwater in the water table as a result of the dedesertification of the nearby regions thanks to the continual influx of new water to promote more plant life.

    This covers industry, environment, public benefit, and special works porkbarrel projects all in one. It seems like it should be a sure win to blow through Congress.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:15PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:15PM (#771918)

      I kinda like your idea. Let's flood Salt Lake City. That will teach those Mormon heretics!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:26PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:26PM (#771924)

    clouds do fly over the deserts, and there is limited mixing of the different layers of air.
    it sometimes rains over a desert, but the water droplets evaporate before they hit the ground (this is especially fun in US deserts, where sometimes the mesa formations get wet on top, but everything else around them stays dry).
    in any case, if you remove water from the air while it's going over the desert, there are ways for the water vapor concentration to go back up to the ~20% or whatever it is in that particular desert: ultimately, it will rain less wherever those desert-passing clouds did turn into proper rain.

  • (Score: 2) by legont on Sunday December 09 2018, @05:21PM

    by legont (4179) on Sunday December 09 2018, @05:21PM (#772000)

    Just a note that hot desert air contents a lot of water - a lot. The water vapor amount in the air is directly proportional to the temperature and the driest air is over antarctic ice.

    If this works, it is very useful indeed.

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  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday December 09 2018, @06:25PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday December 09 2018, @06:25PM (#772031)

    desalinate ocean water, and pump it into the desert? With that, you're reclaiming desert land.

    Tell that to the native desert species you just destroyed.

    OTOH, I agree with you, pulling the little remaining residual moisture from the desert air does seem likely to upset the ecological and perhaps even geological (think: killer dust storms) balance, if done on a massive scale - such as to feed a subdivision with water. Now, you might argue that the subdivision is only borrowing the water and will give most of it back via their treated sewage, sprayed onto municipal golf courses and re-evaporated into the air, but the distribution is going to be quite skewed with unnaturally high humidity around all the mouth breathers in their fuel burning SUVs, and lower than historic humidity near the moisture farms.

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