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posted by martyb on Wednesday December 12 2018, @12:37PM   Printer-friendly
from the Third-Verse-Same-As-The-First dept.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46509288

"Prime Minister Theresa May has called off Tuesday's crucial vote on her Brexit deal so she can go back to Brussels and ask for changes to it.

"As it stands the deal 'would be rejected by a significant margin' if MPs voted on it, she admitted."

The biggest stumbling block appears to be the issue between Ireland and Northern Ireland. In particular, what the borders will look like in terms of what people and goods will need to do or not do in order to cross it.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @12:58PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @12:58PM (#773426)

    It seems like rejection of democracy.

    It was and is. Here is the rundown [threadreaderapp.com] and here's the problems with no deal. [threadreaderapp.com] Just as non-compete agreements are unenforceable in civil employment contracts, the article 50 process should allow negotiation of trade deals over it's 2 year time line. Trump was right, the EU should be sued and the retard that signed the UK into such a unilateral treaty should also be given a bill for resulting economic damage - payable before his head is removed for treason.

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @02:11PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @02:11PM (#773441)

    She's not your pm. She's the eu's puppet. Brits you need to rise up and toss her into the channel.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday December 12 2018, @08:47PM (5 children)

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday December 12 2018, @08:47PM (#773667)

    Trump was right,...

    No he wasn't. Trump is an idiot, and doesn't understand the EU (or the UK come to that).

    All the EU regulations the Brexit wankers whine on about are regulations the UK helped create, as a member of the EU.

    That's how the EU works, and when self-interested arseholes like Boris Johnston lie about the £350 million extra the NHS will get he's doing it to further his own agenda, which is completely about what's best for Boris.

    He's not the only one.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @10:22PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @10:22PM (#773730)

      All the EU regulations the Brexit wankers whine on about are regulations the UK helped create, as a member of the EU.

      The people don't appoint the Commission or the Council. Councilors are not accountable to their people and Commissioners are not accountable at all. Nice try though.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @10:51PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @10:51PM (#773747)

        Until ratified by the EU parliament, no council or commission shit become normative.
        And then, each country in EU need to create their own laws, which in no small number of times many country parliaments refused.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @11:48PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @11:48PM (#773785)

          *sigh*

          'EU civil servants are immune from legal proceedings in respect of acts performed by them in their official capacity, including their words spoken or written. They shall continue to enjoy this immunity after they have ceased to hold office' -- Protocol on the privileges and immunities of the European Communities, 8 April 1965

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday December 13 2018, @12:12AM (1 child)

            by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday December 13 2018, @12:12AM (#773791)

            How does that make them unaccountable?

            That's just parliamentary privilege. Every civilised country has that for their elected people, the EU have extended it to their civil servants.

            Let's not go full retard by pretending it protects them from every aspect of their lives, OK?

            In the US you guys have full immunity for anybody who can buy it, so it's not that different really.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 13 2018, @10:35AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 13 2018, @10:35AM (#773935)

              How does that make them unaccountable?

              The executive is not elected by the people, it is not answerable to the people and yet they are immune from prosecution. This makes them unaccountable. We are communicating in a language called "English" and there's no ambiguity in the meaning of the word unaccountable in the present context.

              That's just parliamentary privilege. Every civilised country has that for their elected people,

              When are the public elections for the EU council and commission held then?

              Let's not go full retard

              Speak for yourself!