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on Wednesday December 12 2018, @12:37PM
from the Third-Verse-Same-As-The-First dept.
from the Third-Verse-Same-As-The-First dept.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46509288
"Prime Minister Theresa May has called off Tuesday's crucial vote on her Brexit deal so she can go back to Brussels and ask for changes to it.
"As it stands the deal 'would be rejected by a significant margin' if MPs voted on it, she admitted."
The biggest stumbling block appears to be the issue between Ireland and Northern Ireland. In particular, what the borders will look like in terms of what people and goods will need to do or not do in order to cross it.
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If bankers can count, how come they have eight windows and only four tellers?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by schad on Wednesday December 12 2018, @05:40PM (2 children)
So in the US, the argument is basically that the mean and the median are not the same thing. To expand on that slightly, while free trade might benefit the economy as a whole, those benefits flow disproportionately (or even exclusively) to only a small fraction of the population. The majority is either no better off, or significantly worse off. Really, it's about wealth inequality, but in the US "wealth inequality" is a catchphrase of the left, so nobody in the right can talk about it directly. As if that's not enough, because the left has to be opposed to everything that Trump does (even if it's something that the left used to support in the recent past), they suddenly have become proponents of free trade even as they continue to rail against the effects that free trade has had on the country. This all leads to a muddled and confusing discourse.
As an ignorant American, this seems to be similar to what's happening in the UK with Brexit. Brexiteers may recognize that the EU has had major economic benefits, but they think those benefits have gone to one or two places: the elites, or Eastern European immigrants. In either case, "regular" Brits have been left behind, marginalized, etc.
I could be completely wrong. Like I said, I'm an ignorant American. But I see an awful lots of parallels.
(Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Wednesday December 12 2018, @09:32PM
while free trade might benefit the economy as a whole, those benefits flow disproportionately (or even exclusively) to only a small fraction of the population.
The fraction of the UK population that want food on their table is small? Who knew!
The chief advantage of leaving will be the serious disruption to our supply of food and drugs (I think its fair to say the supplies of milk, pork, whiskey and cannabis will probably be safe. Not much else - potatoes might be OK for part of the year, dependent on what happens in Ireland, and Israeli avocados are probably safe too when in season).
Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 13 2018, @09:42AM
While that may be true, the leaving behind of "regular Brits" has been UK policy, not EU. The UK governments of Thatcher and Blair both worked very hard to gut the "regular" British economy (targeting lower class and middle class respectively), while centralizing most wealth in London. The EU does not have policies prescribing how to distribute wealth within its member countries, only across borders. For politicians, the EU is an easy target to deflect domestic criticism to, but that doesn't make the EU magically responsible for the situation "regular" Brits find themselves in.
It's ironic that "regular" Brits continue to whine about the "unelected" EU institutions, while they won't even hold their own "elected" institutions to account.