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martyb
on Wednesday December 12 2018, @12:37PM
from the Third-Verse-Same-As-The-First dept.
from the Third-Verse-Same-As-The-First dept.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46509288
"Prime Minister Theresa May has called off Tuesday's crucial vote on her Brexit deal so she can go back to Brussels and ask for changes to it.
"As it stands the deal 'would be rejected by a significant margin' if MPs voted on it, she admitted."
The biggest stumbling block appears to be the issue between Ireland and Northern Ireland. In particular, what the borders will look like in terms of what people and goods will need to do or not do in order to cross it.
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There *__is* intelligent life on Earth, but I leave for Texas on Monday.
(Score: 3, Informative) by choose another one on Wednesday December 12 2018, @08:51PM (4 children)
> The UK wants to leave the EU. OK.
The UK electorate was asked this in a referendum, and that is the majority view.
> The UK *doesn't* want to go back to whatever situation existed before
Wrong. The "UK"s opinion on this is not known - no one has asked that in a referendum. Opinion polls proved worthless in the previous referendum.
It is very possible that a majority in the UK do want to go back to the 70s - Jeremy Corbyn does and there are many who support him, possibly enough for him to win an election.
> So that's why it took so long (2 years). Oh, and the government didn't dare to tell the people that their combined demands were impossible.
No, the people's only demand was to leave the EU, nothing more nothing less, no specifics on how to do it. The demands are coming from government politicians and from business etc. via lobbyists, and that applies to both sides of the negotiations.
(Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Wednesday December 12 2018, @09:43PM
It is indeed, quite likely that the majority would like to return to the days when the sun never set on the British empire.
This is unlikely to be feasible. In particular, I doubt you would get many of today's women to wear Victorian fashions,
and the working class would not accept the employment terms and conditions now they are mostly literate.
Actually, the vote was within 1% - and would far better be interpreted as "don't know" than a majority wanting anything.
(Particularly since no one told them leaving involved no food).
Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12 2018, @10:01PM
Yeah, the referendum gave a nice broad requirement: "leave the EU" but you can't implement a broad requirement (just think how many ways you could implement the requirement "I want a program to paint pictures" - few of them are adobe photoshop) so they need to refine it into an actual specification for what the voters want and then the steps to implement. But doing that refinement without involving the voters directly makes it very unlikely they'll end up with what they want.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday December 13 2018, @12:29AM (1 child)
The people were lied to by the self-interested upper-class who want to run the UK just like they used to.
Bullshit!
Bullshit!
Bullshit!
The guys who ran the whole Brexit nonsense have all shifted their financial interests out of the UK, into Europe, and that absolute scumbag Nigel Lawson (you know, Lord Lawson, who stole taxpayers money) is even a French permanent resident now.
I'm sorry but if you really think Brexit is going to be good for Britain, you're deluding yourself.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 13 2018, @10:18AM
Bullshit!
Bullshit
Autonomy is always good.