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posted by takyon on Friday December 28 2018, @07:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the joking-while-online dept.

UK Cops Have Decided Impolite Online Speech Is Worth A Visit From An Officer

In this case, it was Irish comedy writer Graham Linehan being visited by the Norwich Police Department on a Sunday morning. He was apparently reported by outspoken trans rights activist Adrian Harrop. Linehan had posted tweets criticizing Harrop's televised debate with a woman who had paid for a billboard depicting the dictionary's definition of the word "woman," which bothered Harrop so much he complained and got that taken down as well.

Harrop was the reason Linehan was talking to police officers about tweets that didn't even violate the Twitter Rules. He had merely suggested Harrop's steamrolling of the billboard buyer during a televised debate might have been "male privilege." Another tweet alleged Harrop had threatened women and doxxed them for not being friendly enough to his cause. This is the tweet Harrop admits bothered him so much he needed to call the police. This is the disturbing, but ultimately useless, outcome of Harrop's decision.

[...] You can't recognize free speech while still insisting everyone has to be nice to everyone else while online. You can hope that's what will happen, but you can't demand this of the general population. Unless you're in the UK, in which case you can, because you don't really recognize free speech and should probably remove that phrase from the government's collective vocabulary.


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  • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Saturday December 29 2018, @03:01PM (3 children)

    by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Saturday December 29 2018, @03:01PM (#779687) Journal

    It must be, right?

    Why? This is the TERF misandrist notion that all those assigned the male gender at birth are rapists. However, assignment of the male gender at birth is a legal status and ultimately arbitrary. The idea that one should demand of cis lesbians sex as a part of trans activism screams fifth column. Why can these trans lesbians not have their lesbian sex with other trans women? Are they questioning the validity of their own gender transition? Are they aware of the inherent contradictions they're participating in if it must be a cisgender lesbian they have sex with? I should be as equally qualified as Azuma to have lesbian sex with them (well, considering I'm heterosexual, technically I'm less qualified, but only on that ground). If they want to have sex with a cisgender lesbian because they have a genital preference, I think we have just discovered the exact nature of their hypocrisy!

    This is old and doesn't reflect Azuma's recent experience: Cotton Ceiling: Uncovering the trans conspiracy to rape lesbians [transadvocate.com], but this should give background information about what is going on here.

    Now, maybe it never came up for me because I'm a heterosexual trans woman. However, the notion that “men” (as defined by the solitary data point of reproductive system sex) are rapists unless counseled is rotten. The vast majority of men, statistically speaking, are not criminals. The idea that men will engage in rape unless insulted and called de facto criminals [deepdyve.com] (who have merely not yet been caught) for an hour or two is regressive. That nonsense has no business being anywhere near gender counseling.

    Statistically speaking, 90% of trans women are lesbians. It seems that sexual orientation and gender identity, besides both stemming from conditions in the womb, are otherwise completely unrelated. 90% of people born with male reproductive systems are attracted to women. So it is with trans women, and this is particularly fascinating, at least to me. Sexual orientation evolves completely independently of gender identity! I never woulda guessed that on my own. So already there are 10% of trans women for whom such counseling would make no sense.

    Additionally, consider that a trans woman is never once at any point in her life a man. She is a woman who, for an entirely arbitrary reason, was brainwashed and violently forced (with guns but often lesser weapons down to even fists) to think she is a man by well meaning people who loved the man they had her mistaken for, but they not did love her herself. Does that make sense? The “men are from Mars and women are from Venus” approach is regressive, ridiculous and does not survive scrutiny (see Serano, Friedan, and Beauvoir).

    Another example. Looking closely at groups like Black Lives Matter, I see the same fundamental perversion. Why did BLM disrupt a Sanders rally? That is highly suspicious to me, even moreso when we consider that Sanders' opponent in the 2016 Democratic Party primary was a woman who promoted the misandrist, racist, and patriarchal-fascist “superpredator” theory. The ruling class pulled out all the stops to ensure that Sanders did not win the primary, and groups like BLM that may be CIA fifth columns were likely part of that strategy. (Remember all the crowing about BLM being funded by Soros? Well, I'm telling you that, from a leftist perspective, considering Dr. King Jr.'s experience with the CIA, that idea seems not only legit but probable.)

    Perhaps the most egregious example of the disconnect of the interests of a demographic being completely at odds with the interests of politically motivated actors is the ethno-fascist state of Israel. The people who promote these confusions (e.g. if one opposes transfemale rape of ciswomen one is automatically transphobic, if opposing BLM's regressive actions then racist, if opposing Israel's genocide then anti-Semitic) are sociopaths, and they have no problem promoting complete fabrications, engaging in false flag operations (see the White Helmets), and other mendacity.

    In the final analysis, the working class must overcome these diversions. Things will never get better for any of us until we do. The proletariat are like ents. Something is about to happen that has not happened for 100 years. The proletarian class is about to wake up and find that they are strong.

  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday December 29 2018, @03:20PM (2 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday December 29 2018, @03:20PM (#779695) Journal

    Funny how we come to some of the same conclusions about economics and the elite playing divide-and-conquer with We The People. I've said for a while now that the reason they keep the race divide going is that the instant, for example, poor white men realize they have much more in common with poor black women than rich white men, the game is over. Wouldn't surprise me at all if some fifth-columnists are playing the same game in the LGBTQ community. In fact, given how different each of the letters are, it's probably an inevitability.

    Why can't we all just get along...?

    --
    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Saturday December 29 2018, @05:38PM (1 child)

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Saturday December 29 2018, @05:38PM (#779753) Journal

      I am so sorry about the crap I posted up until a couple months ago. I know I've also said similar before. I hope to show something different with my future comments.

      My guess is that there was a lot of money from the DeVoses (connections to the Black Water mercenary group) and VanAndels and other Michigan bourgeois families involved (of course I was not the only victim) funneling into the college I went to (GVSU)—and bourgeois “donations” are never generous in nature but instead are the hierarchy of power and control in capitalism, and likely also in the incident where I lost access to local medical care. I fell for the fifth columnists hook, line, and sinker. Not much of an excuse, but I think I see what really happened to me.

      Your intuition is spot on about a good number of things. It is logical and supported by the available evidence, so even somebody slow in the head like me can eventually figure it out. I feel that the vast majority of people want to get along, and I hope that, on the other side of the massive upheavals that are likely about to happen, we will find a way to secure for ourselves the necessities of modern life—food, heat in winter, shelter, medical care, etc—so that we may, in fact, abandon the nation-state system (we have already abandoned it in a cultural sense) and begin to get along on a global basis. (If Lenin was not on to something, hopefully at least Lennon was.)

      Also, the legal weed is awesome. Maybe it's not for everybody, but it helps me with objective analysis in spite of deep personal trauma surrounding certain subject matters.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday December 29 2018, @08:19PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday December 29 2018, @08:19PM (#779794) Journal

        I was actually wondering if you'd gained access to prescription medication very recently. Weed is, well, not exactly what I had in mind, but if it helps you, excellent. My sister uses it for her depression and anxiety, and claims similar benefits. I personally am "straight-edge"--nothing worse than caffeine goes into this body--but am glad you found something to help you function and ease the pain.

        --
        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...