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posted by martyb on Monday December 31 2018, @05:27PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-a-wicked-web-we-weave dept.

"Defense Secretary Jim Mattis’ resignation, which shocked Washington’s national security establishment and rattled America’s allies, was sealed in a fateful 18-hour period that saw President Trump resolve to withdraw troops from Syria – alarming Pentagon officials who see America’s role in the region as crucial." foxnews.com/politics/behind-the-scenes-of-the-mattis-bombshell-more-resignations-expected-after-protest-exit


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  • (Score: 2, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 31 2018, @05:56PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 31 2018, @05:56PM (#780323)

    Trump simply did what the puppet master Putin told him to do: withdraw your troups from Syria so I can reign supreme over this future new-USSR country and his "leader" Al-Assad, one of my other puppets.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by soylentnewsinator on Monday December 31 2018, @07:54PM (1 child)

    by soylentnewsinator (7102) on Monday December 31 2018, @07:54PM (#780363)

    BZZZT Orange Man Bad. More war!

    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday December 31 2018, @11:18PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Monday December 31 2018, @11:18PM (#780428) Journal

      Answer in the form of a question:
      What is the most offered Trump comment on SoylentNews?
      :)

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Monday December 31 2018, @11:54PM (6 children)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Monday December 31 2018, @11:54PM (#780437) Journal

    I didn't vote for Trump, don't like Trump, and I'm not a conservative -- yet: good on him.

    That said, those most opposed to ending our involvement in the ME quagmire seem to be Democrats (who also happen to be the most interested in rekindling the cold war over their unrelenting tantrum over losing to Trump).

    If Democrats are going to continue at this level of warpigishness, I'll do like I always do and vote 3d party while hoping they lose again next cycle. I wouldn't mind experiencing again the galactic level schadenfreude I felt during the last presidential election. Honestly, to lose to Trump is self-verifying evidence of how out of touch Democrat politicians are, and I believe (or at least hope) their ridiculous level of bloodlust is out of step with rank and file Democrats.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday January 01 2019, @01:06AM (4 children)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday January 01 2019, @01:06AM (#780463) Journal

      I don't know how it makes sense to continue an American presence in Syria. It only risks dragging the US into a third war in the middle east in 20 years. The Turks want to beat on the PKK for a while and possibly re-establish hegemony in the region. The Peshmurga don't have any love for ISIS, Assad, or Turkey and want their own country for once. Assad wants to survive. The hairball of that region is going to go round and round and round like it has ceaselessly for thousands of years, so let them at it and let the rest of us walk away.

      The position of the Democrats on this is more proof that we're living in upside-down world. They're the ones that want to restart the Cold War by going hawkish on Russia, a greatly diminished echo of what they were in that period? They're the ones who want more war in the Middle East? They have re-made themselves into a caricature of who the neocon Republicans were, except nobody can look at figures like Nancy Pelosi bristling with righteous anger and feel anything but the pity we all feel when we see Keith Richards squeeze himself into leather pants. That is, it's ridiculously fake. Further, it quite exposes who the Democrats work for, and it is not the American people at all.

      It also exposes the top bureaucrats in DC who want war, war, war. They don't any of them serve the American people at all.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 01 2019, @02:59AM (2 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 01 2019, @02:59AM (#780503) Journal

        I don't know how it makes sense to continue an American presence in Syria.

        Just like it didn't make sense to continue an American presence in Iraq, until ISIS dragged the US into a war in Iraq and Syria?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01 2019, @05:42AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01 2019, @05:42AM (#780557)

          ... until ISIS dragged the US into a war in Iraq and Syria...

          ...with USA [independent.co.uk] provided [bbc.com] weapons [wired.com]? Yeah, makes perfect sense.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 01 2019, @01:57PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 01 2019, @01:57PM (#780616) Journal
            Does it really make "perfect sense"? My car went through your store window because I didn't fix my bad brakes. So I don't have to pay for your repairs, and can continue to drive that car as is? It'd be nice if countries tried to fix the mistakes they made more often.

            And it's worth noting here that US/Saudi Arabia-provided weapons don't have this magic power to force their users to attack US allies. ISIS would have invaded Iraq anyway because that is what they chose to do.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01 2019, @06:27AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01 2019, @06:27AM (#780559)

        And Trump is powerless to stop them when they have the military. Watch the Runaway.

    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday January 02 2019, @12:06AM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Wednesday January 02 2019, @12:06AM (#780793) Homepage

      " (who also happen to be the most interested in rekindling the cold war over their unrelenting tantrum over losing to Trump). "

      It totally has to do with just throwing a hissy-fit about Trump and nothing to do with their unwavering loyalty to Israel, them being AIPAC-funded and half of them having dual American-Israeli citizenship and all.