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posted by takyon on Tuesday January 01 2019, @04:50PM   Printer-friendly
from the defenseless-car dept.

The old gray lady reports that the people of Tempe AZ, a popular testing location for self driving cars, are fighting back. Here are a couple of snippets from the longer article:

The [tire] slashing was one of nearly two dozen attacks on driverless vehicles over the past two years in Chandler, a city near Phoenix where Waymo started testing its vans in 2017. In ways large and small, the city has had an early look at public misgivings over the rise of artificial intelligence, with city officials hearing complaints about everything from safety to possible job losses.

Some people have pelted Waymo vans with rocks, according to police reports. Others have repeatedly tried to run the vehicles off the road. One woman screamed at one of the vans, telling it to get out of her suburban neighborhood. A man pulled up alongside a Waymo vehicle and threatened the employee riding inside with a piece of PVC pipe.

[...] "There are other places they can test," said Erik O'Polka, 37, who was issued a warning by the police in November after multiple reports that his Jeep Wrangler had tried to run Waymo vans off the road — in one case, driving head-on toward one of the self-driving vehicles until it was forced to come to an abrupt stop.

His wife, Elizabeth, 35, admitted in an interview that her husband "finds it entertaining to brake hard" in front of the self-driving vans, and that she herself "may have forced them to pull over" so she could yell at them to get out of their neighborhood. The trouble started, the couple said, when their 10-year-old son was nearly hit by one of the vehicles while he was playing in a nearby cul-de-sac.

"They said they need real-world examples, but I don't want to be their real-world mistake," said Mr. O'Polka, who runs his own company providing information technology to small businesses. "They didn't ask us if we wanted to be part of their beta test," added his wife, who helps run the business.

It looks like The New York Times used this article from December 11 as part of their story:

A slashed tire, a pointed gun, bullies on the road: Why do Waymo self-driving vans get so much hate?

This seems to be happening everywhere Waymo is testing, not just Tempe.

Lots of comments about this article on other sites, SoylentNews should get in on the fun too! A quote from a "media analyst" suggests that driverless cars are like scabs, hired to break a union strike.

Also at The Hill.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 01 2019, @08:41PM (16 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 01 2019, @08:41PM (#780708) Journal

    Your view, or vision, or lack thereof, does not define who or what I am.

    What you fail to understand is that racism is equally serious, whether the racist be white, black, Asian, or Martian. It's racism no matter color or ethnicity the hater is.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:04PM (3 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:04PM (#780717) Journal

    Postin' this here again so everyone can see it: https://soylentnews.org/~Azuma+Hazuki/journal/3577 [soylentnews.org]

    You fucked up, Runaway. This *is* what you are. In your own words.

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:29PM (2 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:29PM (#780732) Journal

      Your obsession clearly shows that you are incapable of understanding the words. YOU are the one who pondered the next civil war.

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by Gaaark on Tuesday January 01 2019, @10:35PM (1 child)

        by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday January 01 2019, @10:35PM (#780764) Journal

        You two need to get a room.
        ;)

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @12:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @12:47PM (#780998)

          I don't even understand the stuff they talk about, which makes it a generic argument in the style of

          while(1) {
            puts("You are!");
            puts("No, you are!");
          }

  • (Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:04PM (11 children)

    by fyngyrz (6567) on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:04PM (#780718) Journal

    What you (didn't) fail to understand is that racism is equally serious stupid and counterproductive, whether the racist be white, black, Asian, or Martian. It's racism no matter color or ethnicity the hater is.

    FTFY

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    go for the juggler.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:27PM (10 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:27PM (#780730) Journal

      ?? You're speaking for Azumi? What am I missing here?

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by fyngyrz on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:45PM (9 children)

        by fyngyrz (6567) on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:45PM (#780741) Journal

        You're speaking for Azumi?

        I quoted you, and corrected your obvious misapprehensions (or mischaracterizations), that's all. I didn't quote Azumi. I may, however, understand her position on these issues better than you do. Unless you're just being disingenuous. A possibility I certainly do not discount.

        What am I missing here?

        Offhand? (At least) these: Common sense; The actual nature of problems that are rooted in culture, not race; The ability to perform any significant degree of introspection; Reading comprehension; A healthy sense of empathy.

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        Just because someone is offended...
        doesn't mean they're right.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:56PM (8 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:56PM (#780747) Journal

          Well, we could fix a lot of crap, if everyone went back a few decades, and picked up with King's dream. No one, it seems, wants to do that. Democrats drive that identity politics thing, separating everyone from everyone. United we stand, divided we fall - and no one wants to be united as Americans.

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by fyngyrz on Tuesday January 01 2019, @10:21PM (6 children)

            by fyngyrz (6567) on Tuesday January 01 2019, @10:21PM (#780758) Journal

            Democrats drive that identity politics thing, separating everyone from everyone.

            I'm not really a fan of Democrats (or Republicans), but frankly, the only word I can think of that adequately describes your statement there is projection. [wikipedia.org]

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            traditional, jingoistic, and religious.

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 02 2019, @12:19AM (5 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 02 2019, @12:19AM (#780798) Journal

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics [wikipedia.org]

              I'm not part of identity politics - I stand against all of that nonsense.

              • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 02 2019, @02:09AM (4 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday January 02 2019, @02:09AM (#780834) Journal

                Like fuck you do. That rant shows you are up to your eyeballs in identity politics.

                - "And, I, for one, am not willing that my grandchildren should be cast into some third-rate citizen role, to make those brown or black people happy."
                - "Progressives promise to enslave my descendants, at the expense of brown and black people. Just fuck them."
                - "[I]f you're brown, or black, you get a leg up in education, employment, in everything. If you're white, or Asian, you get shit on, and you're lucky if you can ever get a job cleaning septic tanks, or collecting garbage."
                - "I'll willingly sacrifice five million dead conservatives and independents to put a stop to the progressives."
                - "Twenty million dead progressives? Make it fifty million - it's all the same to me."

                Fuck you, you disingenuous sack of shit. How dare you say things like this and claim to be "not part of identity politics." You think this site has no memory? You think we can't find out what you really are? Piss off.

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                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 02 2019, @07:17AM (3 children)

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 02 2019, @07:17AM (#780926) Journal

                  Again - you started the speculating about the next civil war. I explained what the next civil war would be like. You seem to have lost all track of your own contributions to that "discussion".

                  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 02 2019, @03:05PM (2 children)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday January 02 2019, @03:05PM (#781035) Journal

                    ...what the fuck is wrong with you? Do I need to copy and paste the entire thing here? Do I have to grab you by the back of your fat stinking neck and smash your face into the monitor over and over again directly on top of the quotes? Are you trying to outdo Donald Trump in brazen, self-serving, reality-denying lies or what?

                    YOU. SAID. THESE. THINGS. And the internet has a long memory.

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                    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 02 2019, @04:31PM (1 child)

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 02 2019, @04:31PM (#781068) Journal

                      You only have to own up to your end of the conversation. YOU started by speculating that it might be worth it to kill off a few of the assholes in Washington. Stuff went back and forth a couple times, then I spelled out for you very specifically what a civil war would be like, with millions of bodies hitting the ground. You are so very obsessesed with my post, but you still fail to hold the whole conversation in context. It's your failing, not mine. And, apparently, that's why you are unable to really comprehend what I wrote.

                      If you REALLY need me to hold your hand, if you REALLY need me to find where you started all of the speculation, I suppose I can do that. I shouldn't have to do that though, not if you're 92nd percentile.

                      But, I fully expect that once again, you'll just fall back on "You're going to burn in hell!" Surprise me with a rational conversation?

                      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @05:52PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @05:52PM (#781102)

                        She started that conversation but your piss poor reading comprehension is what really got the fight started. In your anger you showed your true predilections. Now that may be so uncomfortable that you can't handle acknowledging it but Azuma is right. You could have tried apologizing, that is usually how people show remorse when they said the wrong things in the heat of the moment, but noooo. Just more lack of personal responsibility and childish "wasn't me" behavior.

                        You are that guy, the one with a good black friend and racist jokes. Run over any welfare mamas yet?]

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @01:18AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @01:18AM (#780815)

            This is the weird part where the answer key is staring you in the face.

            Read WSWS more. Consortium News. Truthdig. Counterpunch. They have plenty to say about how rotten identity politics is and how it's used to distract from proletarian flattening. (WSWS more than the others, but you're far from the only person tired of the pseudo-left's bullshit.)

            One gets the impression that you simply do not want to listen to the voices speaking against identity politics. (Maybe you'll even post one of your many excuses in response to this comment.)