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posted by n1 on Tuesday January 01 2019, @07:19PM   Printer-friendly
from the blowing-smoke dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

Public Health England (PHE) has released a new film showing the devastating harms that come from smoking, and how this can be avoided by switching to an e-cigarette or using another type of quit aid.

The film has been released as part of PHE’s Health Harms campaign, which encourages smokers to attempt to quit this January, by demonstrating the personal harm to health from every single cigarette.

The film features smoking expert Dr Lion Shahab and Dr Rosemary Leonard, visually demonstrating the high levels of cancer-causing chemicals and tar inhaled by an average smoker over a month, compared to not smoking or using an e-cigarette.

The results of the demonstration visually illustrate the stark contrast between the impacts of smoking and vaping. Research estimates that while not risk-free, vaping is at least 95% less harmful than smoking.

Around 2.5 million adults are using e-cigarettes in England, and they have helped thousands of people successfully quit – but many smokers (44%) either believe that vaping is as harmful as smoking (22%) or don’t know that vaping poses much lower risks to health (22%).

-- submitted from IRC


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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Captival on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:12PM (10 children)

    by Captival (6866) on Tuesday January 01 2019, @09:12PM (#780723)

    Fuck yourself. Sounds like you're more interested in lecturing people than actually trying to help them. There isn't even a worst case scenario possible where vaping isn't better for you than smoking.

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  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01 2019, @10:10PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01 2019, @10:10PM (#780755)

    Fuck yourself. Sounds like you're more interested in lecturing people than actually trying to help them.

    It sounds like someone struck a nerve. You should read the GP again and check yourself for irony.

    The problem really is the "addiction" bit (that drives people into bad moods, bad debts, etc.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01 2019, @11:11PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01 2019, @11:11PM (#780774)

      Bad debts lol. Vape isn't expensive. You can make it yourself if you buy VG, PG, nicotine, and some flavorings. Make your own coils and get a good tank and it's very cheap, way cheaper than cigarettes. That's really what's at stake here. We get endless stories in the corporate propaganda (the MSM) about how horrible vaping is and how there's a big moral panic about teenagers vaping (is somebody selling to people under 18? if so, why not stop that instead of having a huge moral panic?). It's all in the name of preserving big tobacco's profits.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday January 02 2019, @07:42AM (2 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 02 2019, @07:42AM (#780928) Journal

        Bad debts lol. Vape isn't expensive

        For now.
        It will, though, govts need excise money and what better source than the addicts.

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @06:36PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @06:36PM (#781114)

          Even if they tax pure nicotine 100%, it still wouldn't be expensive to buy more than you could realistically user.

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday January 02 2019, @09:31PM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 02 2019, @09:31PM (#781199) Journal

            Ummm... For your convenience tobacco excize in Australia [ato.gov.au] straight from the horse's mouth. The excise is probably around 500% of the production cost.

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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Tuesday January 01 2019, @11:43PM (3 children)

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Tuesday January 01 2019, @11:43PM (#780785) Homepage

    I think that this is a legitimate concern. Nobody enjoys being lectured but vaping is still relatively new, and before I switch from ciggies to the vape, I want to be sure that there are no sneaky underlying major health effects that are worse than the lack of smoke and other particulates.

    Of course that ain't sayin' much, cigarette smoke is fucking nasty, even if I do smoke additive-free American Spirits.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @02:19AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @02:19AM (#780839)

      Of course that ain't sayin' much, cigarette smoke is fucking nasty

      No offense, but no shit. Cigarette smokers generally have no idea how offensive they smell to non-smokers. I can smell one in a store 30 feet away. It's on their clothes and in their hair. They reek. One woman I used to work with would finish up one on her way to the building every morning and she stunk the elevator up with nicotine breath. I could get on the elevator after she was long gone and the whole car still smelled like her breath. She smelled like she gargled from a dirty ashtray. She was a nice woman and all but I'd rather take a leak in the bathroom all the Indians used than talk to her face to face.

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday January 02 2019, @02:42AM (1 child)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Wednesday January 02 2019, @02:42AM (#780847) Homepage

        I smoke only on weekends. Which means that when I get into that elevator with you I don't stink.

        But judging from your saltiness, I bet you're an ex-smoker trying to quit. I quit for 5 years straight, and I know how pungent and noticeable it smells to non-smokers, especially those who "quit." Whether or not you consider me a non-smoker is debatable, but I assure you that I'm not the asshole stinking up your sterile public space.

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @05:06AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 02 2019, @05:06AM (#780893)

          You guessed wrong. I'm a lifetime non-smoker. I didn't use to be so offended by smokers but when my workplace at the time went non-smoking, I quickly got used to clean, fresh air. When restaurants, bars and bowling alleys went non-smoking, the last few places I had any close encounters with active smokers stopped. Home was always smoke free. None of my friends or family ever smoked except for one buddy's wife. The longer I was away from second hand smoke, the more the smell became disgusting to me. Now it smells to me like walking past a pig sty. Cigar smoke actually gives me stomach nausea.

          My ex took up smoking because her new husband is a serious chain smoker and she couldn't stand the smell of him unless she smoked too. Long story; she's crazy. When the kids come home after an infrequent visit, I have to have them strip at the door and hit the shower. Everything - coats and all - go in the washer. They stink when they get home.

          My workplace has gone full on non-smoking; anywhere on the property. No running out to your car to smoke or hiding behind bushes. I don't know how some of the most addicted managed. God knows they can't cheat because the smell gives them away. Now I only have to put up with smoker-stank first thing in the morning and right after lunch.

  • (Score: 2) by DeVilla on Thursday January 03 2019, @12:08AM

    by DeVilla (5354) on Thursday January 03 2019, @12:08AM (#781254)

    I have to admit, I'm waiting for the "ambulance chaser" ads 15 to 20 years from now like the mesothelioma ones we've had a lot of. I'm waiting to find out some unexpected behavior with small particulate matter embedding in the lungs causing something terrible down the road.

    I hope it's safe, but if I were betting money ...