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This coming summer the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) is running their 8th annual security workshop — details at https://www.sae.org/attend/cyberauto
The SAE CyberAuto™ Challenge brings together students and engineers from different backgrounds, industries, and organizations to collaboratively seek new information on automotive cybersecurity. No matter your perspective of participation at CyberAuto Challenge, your experience will benefit you now and in the future:
- High school and college students work with in-service vehicles and their production code, software stacks, and internal electronics
- Automotive engineers learn new ways to think about vehicle security and safety
- Government officials gain new perspectives about vehicle security and safety while engaging one-on-one with the next generation of cyber professionals
- Researchers developing emerging techniques to find real solutions to cybersecurity challenges and engage the next generation cyber-auto engineers.
This AC has no idea if you can really teach security, but at least someone is trying. It's also possible that SAE is training the other side? The page has a glowing testimonial that ends:
To sum it all up: thank you. That five days of the CyberAuto Challenge changed my life.”
–Vanya Gorbachev, 2018 CyberAuto Challenge participant
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @03:11AM (5 children)
On a related page SAE says,
Any idea if those numbers make sense?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 08 2019, @03:18AM (3 children)
Not in a car they don't. That's entirely too many places to hide really unfortunate bugs. The only complex electronics on my next car are going to be housed in the radio. Yes, radio not touchscreen infotainment center. Thankfully, I'm capable of making that happen my own damned self even if the thing comes with more processing power than my desktop when it rolls off the showroom floor.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @12:56PM (2 children)
> The only complex electronics on my next car are going to be housed in the radio.
Not sure about your state, but to pass a NY annual vehicle inspection (required) they plug in an OBDII tester and look for any emission system faults including system modifications. I tried once with a car that just had a new battery installed (computer powered down) and the inspector told me I had to drive it for 30-50 miles before the computer would give useful results to the tester (I believe the computer slowly dials in the correct fuel and spark map?)
Unless you plan to drive a pre-OBD vehicle forever (and put up with fussy old fuel and spark systems), this is going to be a tough requirement to meet with no engine computer.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 08 2019, @04:36PM (1 child)
No personal vehicle inspections in TN. Or in OK for that matter. I'm all good even if I move back some time in the future.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by anubi on Tuesday January 08 2019, @11:14PM
Now, that's one of the main drivers behind why I bought and am renovating a 25 year old Ford / International 7.3L IDI Diesel van, even though I could have purchased a brand new machine.
By now, I am pretty well conditioned to accept that " advanced technology" is the buzzword businesses use to mean I will agree to whatever their machine demands of me.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:45AM
True or niot, 100 million seems to be what everyone quotes.. http://desigeek.com/blog/amit/2018/08/28/how-many-lines-of-code-does-it-take/ [desigeek.com]
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex