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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday January 08 2019, @11:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the einstein-dismisses-india-scientists dept.

BBC:

Some academics at the annual Indian Science Congress dismissed the findings of Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein.

Hindu mythology and religion-based theories have increasingly become part of the Indian Science Congress agenda.

But experts said remarks at this year's summit were especially ludicrous.

[...] The head of a southern Indian university cited an old Hindu text as proof that stem cell research was discovered in India thousands of years ago.

G Nageshwar Rao, vice chancellor of Andhra University, also said a demon king from the Hindu religious epic, Ramayana, had 24 types of aircraft and a network of landing strips in modern day Sri Lanka.

Another scientist from a university in the southern state of Tamil Nadu told conference attendees that Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein were both wrong and that gravitational waves should be renamed "Narendra Modi Waves" [Narendra Modi is the current Prime Minister of India].


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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday January 10 2019, @12:51AM (13 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday January 10 2019, @12:51AM (#784374) Journal

    How do you manage to talk fluently with your tongue all over the elites' boots? Is it because you're talking out your ass?

    Hallow, you are not a temporarily-embarrassed millionaire. You are not part of the elite. You will never be part of the elite. Brownnosing the elite will avail you nothing; you do not even figure into their worldview, and were you to starve and die on the street, none of them would know, nor would they care if they did know.

    You need to wake up to reality: you have much, much more in common with everyone you despise than with the rich.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday January 10 2019, @02:17AM (12 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 10 2019, @02:17AM (#784413) Journal
    Is this going to become another thread where you tell us [soylentnews.org] how wonderful things will become when we screw over 100 people to save 1 person? You used the "temporarily-embarrassed millionaire" line there too. I explained there why it was a nonsensical term. That explanation applies here as well (namely, laws that screw over millionaires routinely screw over the far less wealthy as well - there's a long history of blowback from these schemes).

    Hallow, you are not a temporarily-embarrassed millionaire. You are not part of the elite. You will never be part of the elite.

    I quite agree. So what? When are we going to hear something relevant to the thread?

    You need to wake up to reality: you have much, much more in common with everyone you despise than with the rich.

    I don't think much of the sort of person who doesn't want to try for something (like wealth), complains when they don't get it without said trying, and squanders it when they do get it through a windfall.

    Sorry, I think we have a huge list of more important things to worry about than the alleged psychology of rich people.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday January 10 2019, @11:11PM (11 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday January 10 2019, @11:11PM (#784714) Journal

      This response doesn't surprise me at all. Disappoints me, yes, but doesn't surprise me. "[T]he psychology of rich people," and fuck your "alleged," is responsible for tremendous ills in this world.

      And why is this? Because money becomes an addiction for them. No matter how much they have, it's never enough. And the more they get, the more distant from ordinary people and ordinary peoples' experiences they become. Money, power, and privilege exert a well-known, easily-observable "gravitational" or positive-feedback effect, in that the more of them you have the easier it is to game the system and attract even more. Combine all of these, and you have a self-sustaining, self-accelerating recipe for disaster.

      How many working poor people do you know? I guarangoddamntee you they work harder than most middle-class people, for obviously far lower wages, in much worse conditions. If hard work were THE prerequisite to wealth and success, single mothers would be millionaires. You willfully refuse to see how the world works, and while I could speculate as to why, I don't give a damn any longer: I'll happily file it away under "Hallow's a shitty human being and has zero will to improve himself."

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      • (Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Friday January 11 2019, @04:55AM (10 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 11 2019, @04:55AM (#784894) Journal

        This response doesn't surprise me at all.

        Back at you on that. But what can we do when you continue to fail to learn? The rebuttals remain true and effective today just as they did back then. Meanwhile the shrill mocking of "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" means not only do you not have a clue, you haven't even bothered to try to get a clue.

        How many working poor people do you know?

        Presently, I work at a company that employs thousands of them. I work with them every day.

        Money, power, and privilege exert a well-known, easily-observable "gravitational" or positive-feedback effect, in that the more of them you have the easier it is to game the system and attract even more.

        Until, of course, the amounts get so unwieldy that you can't figure out how to invest it at the higher returns on investment that you could with smaller amounts of wealth. For example, Amazon grew in market capitalization from roughly $14 billion at the beginning of 2005 to over $700 billion presently. This theory of wealth gravitation would then assert that they're going to grow by at least a factor of 50 from the present till oh, 2033 with similar ease. No idea how Amazon would be earning the 1 or 2 trillion USD needed to make that valuation possible, but you'll no doubt figure a way.

        You willfully refuse to see how the world works

        Back at you on that. I've long ago learned to disregard the moral noise from your quarter since you remain ignorant of consequence.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Friday January 11 2019, @06:12AM (5 children)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Friday January 11 2019, @06:12AM (#784915) Journal

          Khallow, seriously, she is only trying to help you restore some modicum of humanity, and renounce your ideological arguing in bad faith! We are all here to help you, khallow. I have known several individuals who were severely infected with libertarian fantasies and free-market wishy syndrome, who recovered. The same is possible for you. You only need listen to reason, question your base assumptions, and realize that you are living in fantasy world of your own creation! None of you economics is real, khallow! Not even on a psychological level. It is pure construction, Austrian school mental monetary masturbation. Stop it, or you will go blind. If you have not already.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday January 11 2019, @01:14PM (4 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 11 2019, @01:14PM (#785012) Journal
            I thought this would bring you out. If you ever decide to engage in honest, good faith argument, I'll be around.

            None of you economics is real [...] It is pure construction

            As an aside, that is how you make ideas real. You construct them. Dependency on human minds (or perhaps other minds which aren't necessarily as complicated as a human one - see pollination or carcass feeding behavior for examples of non-human animal behavior that uses some basic principles of economics) doesn't make ideas unreal.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Friday January 11 2019, @10:19PM (3 children)

              by aristarchus (2645) on Friday January 11 2019, @10:19PM (#785250) Journal

              My gawd, khallow! Are you seriously saying that Buzzards, such as our own dear Mightly one, used their mind, and the principles of economics, to choose to specialize in carrion-feeding? Amazing. Almost a good as the "backhoe rental" theory of capitalism. At least you did not suggest that the "other mind" was a divine creator intelligence, whose invisible hand controls the universe.

              So know we know that carrion-feeding is a lifestyle choice, not something that beings are born that way. Next we can expect conservative clinics that "Pray away the Carcass!", and people saying "Hate the disgusting diet, but love the cute Buzzard". Personal buzzard responsibility, and all that.

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 14 2019, @05:04AM (2 children)

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 14 2019, @05:04AM (#786274) Journal
                It's sad that we can't have grown up talks. There's something going on in your head, but it just never gets out.
                • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday January 14 2019, @06:45AM (1 child)

                  by aristarchus (2645) on Monday January 14 2019, @06:45AM (#786322) Journal

                  My dear and fluffy khallow, it is you that prevents rational discourse! Let's for examples's sake. consider the difference between the cost of production, and the price of widgets. Do you not realize that in a normally competitive economy, the fixed cost would be the same for all enterprises, so the only way they could provide a margin of "profit" would be by not paying their workers the full value of their labor? Or do we just hold their kids in captivity, until they agree to our wage demands? You are an intellectual scab, khallow. I would love to have an adult talk with you, but that would have to be predicated upon you actually becoming an adult, and not a Vienna Circle Austrian Economics White Supremacist Ideological syncophant. Suck it up, khallow, or the rest of SoylentNews will continue our embargo of your bullshit.

                  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 14 2019, @01:18PM

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 14 2019, @01:18PM (#786426) Journal

                    Let's for examples's sake. consider the difference between the cost of production, and the price of widgets. Do you not realize that in a normally competitive economy, the fixed cost would be the same for all enterprises, so the only way they could provide a margin of "profit" would be by not paying their workers the full value of their labor? Or do we just hold their kids in captivity, until they agree to our wage demands? You are an intellectual scab, khallow. I would love to have an adult talk with you, but that would have to be predicated upon you actually becoming an adult, and not a Vienna Circle Austrian Economics White Supremacist Ideological syncophant. Suck it up, khallow, or the rest of SoylentNews will continue our embargo of your bullshit.

                    I await this rational discourse. It sounds quite interesting. But the above is not an example of it.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday January 11 2019, @05:42PM (3 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday January 11 2019, @05:42PM (#785143) Journal

          Hallow, there is a limit to how much the gravity effect works, but it only happens when so much money has been hoovered up that it depletes the economy around it. You're doing the equivalent of objecting to the idea of black holes by saying that they stop growing once they've eaten all the nearby stars around them.

          Look, I get it: you're evil. All religions and most secular traditions speak of people like you. I know you can't be changed until you want to, and you're comfortable and well-off enough not to want to yet. Well, that's fine; I do this, again, for everyone watching you, to make sure your selfish, blind horseshit doesn't seem to go unopposed and to break it down for people who might otherwise be ensnared by it. Get it now? This is not for your benefit; it's for the protection of anyone unfortunate enough to stumble into the swamp of moral nullity that is The Hallowsphere.

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          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 14 2019, @05:07AM (2 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 14 2019, @05:07AM (#786276) Journal

            Hallow, there is a limit to how much the gravity effect works, but it only happens when so much money has been hoovered up that it depletes the economy around it. You're doing the equivalent of objecting to the idea of black holes by saying that they stop growing once they've eaten all the nearby stars around them.

            It has diminishing returns long before that point.

            Look, I get it: you're evil.

            Look, you don't get it. You keep reverting to these stupid morality plays rather than thinking. It's been going on as long as you've been here.

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 15 2019, @05:43AM (1 child)

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 15 2019, @05:43AM (#786800) Journal

              You keep on proving my point: evil cannot comprehend good. Again, I understand, and I accept this. If placing humans above profits, if not objectifying people and not deifying things is a "stupid morality play," then I happily accept your accusations, and stand guilty as charged. I can't convince you, or people like you, to place people above objects, and frankly I am becoming weary of trying. Again these posts are not for you, but for anyone unfortunate enough to come into your orbit.

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              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 15 2019, @02:34PM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 15 2019, @02:34PM (#786895) Journal

                You keep on proving my point: evil cannot comprehend good.

                Since you're the one with the comprehension problem, what does that say about you? You keep playing these games, but you're not listening to yourself. I think it's actually more or less good advice. Too bad the person saying it isn't following it.