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Chrysler Settles for Fuel Emissions Cheating

posted by martyb on Friday January 11 2019, @08:08AM   Printer-friendly
from the Copies-Everything-Including-Cheating dept.

An Anonymous Coward writes:

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/01/fiat-chrysler-settles-in-lawsuit-over-diesel-emissions-cheating/

The US Justice Department (DOJ) on Thursday announced a $305 million civil settlement between Fiat Chrysler and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in a lawsuit over illegal software found on certain diesel Dodge Ram models and diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee models.

[...] The settlement comes two years after the EPA accused Fiat Chrysler of installing undisclosed and illegal software on 104,000 vehicles, including 3.0L diesel Dodge Ram 1500 trucks and diesel Jeep Grand Cherokees between model years 2014 and 2016. The EPA claimed the software would sense when the vehicle was being tested under laboratory conditions and implement the full emissions control system so that the car could pass the EPA's emissions tests.

I guess the Volkswagen cheating was considered a feature by the Chrysler engineers, and they were just copying what the customers demanded?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11 2019, @04:07PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11 2019, @04:07PM (#785082)

    People need to go to jail for this shit no matter what side of the aisle you're on.

    How about we review the regulations that were causing the problem in the first place?

    Volkswagen and Chrysler don't get to pick and choose what laws they feel like ignoring. Not only ignore but actively use sophisticated means to break the law for monetary gain and dupe the regulatory body and the buyers of their cars in the process. Adjudicate those offences and we can also consider the very separate issue of whether it's a good law or should be scrapped.

    Unless, of course, it doesn't do that. How about jailing parents who keep their kids inside all the time in an overly clean environment? That makes for worse cases of asthma and other respiratory illnesses, and may by itself explain most of the increase in respiratory illness cases attributed to air pollution (assuming it's not all observation bias in the first place)

    Certainly possible but neither does this absolve the companies in question. The law was on the books, these companies decided it didn't apply to them cuz reasons. Not good enough.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday January 12 2019, @01:26PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 12 2019, @01:26PM (#785492) Journal

    Volkswagen and Chrysler don't get to pick and choose what laws they feel like ignoring.

    I'd care if the regulation were worth enforcing. Instead we see here the consequences of dumb laws and regulations - namely, that they don't get enforced properly by the regulators. Personally, I think there's more important things to do with regulation that worrying about what dumb regulations Volkswagen and Chrysler are "picking and choosing". As to "adjudication", we could always just completely ignore these abuses from businesses both large and small, to be fair.

    I used to think that rigorous enforcement of stupid regulations would help eliminate them. I don't believe that anymore - there's way too much stuff that's been kicking around for half a century or more. At this point, selective enforcement of regulation is already the saner though perhaps undemocratic approach.