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MEP [Member of European Parliament] Julia Reda provides an update on the EU Copyright Directive which is in the final drafting stages. The whole text will be finalized January 21st but the infamous Article 13 is already set and Internet platforms will be made directly liable for any copyright infringements their users commit, should the final text be voted in.
What remains in the drafting stage in regards to Article 13 is to decide exactly which lengths will platforms need to go to and just how much they will need to restrict our ability to post and share content online in order to avoid or limit their liability.
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European Union Article 13 is Almost Final
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Remember Darwin; building a better mousetrap merely results in smarter mice.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11 2019, @04:52PM (10 children)
Serious question. I run a small website as a hobby. In view of this I am faced with a choice: either shut down user comments, or block all of Europe. I prefer the 2nd option. So, what is a free reliable source for GEOIP (both IPv4 and IPv6) information sufficient to block all of Europe from seeing anything other than a "sorry, your government doesn't want you to see this website" page?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11 2019, @05:05PM
Not all of Europe, just EU countries
(Score: 3, Interesting) by PiMuNu on Friday January 11 2019, @06:17PM
TFA indicates that this does not apply to not-for-profits.
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Friday January 11 2019, @06:41PM (7 children)
I can think of some other options.
You could filter all links out in comments; and then moderate actively to prevent copypasta of text into the comments.
You could, I suppose, trigger this filter with IPs that are not whitelisted as US IPs. Or blacklisted as EU IPs. Though I'm not sure where you'd get the info in such a way as to keep it updated.
You could also just actively moderate and edit problems out, if your site is as small as you indicate. Only fairly busy sites actually have a somewhat good excuse that active moderation is too hard, IMHO. Other than "I'm just lazy."
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(Score: 3, Informative) by nobu_the_bard on Friday January 11 2019, @08:12PM (1 child)
Whitelisting works better if you must choose between them. You can download lists for free from here: http://www.ipdeny.com/ipblocks/ [ipdeny.com]
The lists are not, in my experience, perfectly accurate. You will need to make sure you are syncing your local copy on a regular basis as IPs shift around a fair bit. Once you start getting into the weedy details of what country maps to each IP you will also realize it's total insanity. An IP can be associated with RIPE in the Netherlands, registered to a company in Denmark, assigned to a client in Belgium, and functions as a proxy for a user from France.
There's other, better sources around, but they are more expensive, and not so much better that I bother. IPDENY is good enough for most things.
It's not hard to set up though, and you can make an argument you took what measures you could afford to limit potential problems ahead of time, without resorting to draconian methods like banning all users.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @11:32AM
What about VPN users?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday January 11 2019, @11:14PM (4 children)
I hope you're not defending this crap! Or maybe I was fished in?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Saturday January 12 2019, @01:28AM (3 children)
No, definitely not. I'm more suggesting a way to neuter the EU citizens if this passes, and from then on until/if they rein in their idiot masters.
But I am for protecting the web site owners. If you are a web site owner, why would you let some random citizen put you at risk?
Put the blame on the lawmakers (I'll put that on every page, if this comes to pass); put the onus for a fix on the people they are screwing out of free-ish speech. In at least nominally democratic countries, the citizens can apply pressure. And they should. And this will incline them to.
Don't think it can't happen here, either. Plenty of government repression of free speech already going on in the good 'ol 1st-amendment-having USA.
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we repeatedly fail to defeat it with intelligence.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 12 2019, @02:22AM (2 children)
Put the blame on the lawmakers
Lawmakers don't care about people that don't vote for them. We have to go after the people that do. A bit more difficult maybe, but you have to go to the source.
There is no hope for internet freedom while we are dependent on registrars and ISPs. They are the defacto government enforcers. Our only hope is a long way off, but not impossible.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:08PM (1 child)
The reality of a WAN — mesh or otherwise — is that you will always have dependencies, and these can always potentially turn, or be turned, into enforcers.
The common conception of a "right", as far as "freedom" goes, is confused. No philosophically-derived right to act actually exists in fact without power backing it up. The other side of that coin is that your rights and freedoms will always be at the mercy of any service required to implement them, and those who control those services.
So in the end, if the powers-that-be won't back up your right, then all you have is the philosophical concept of it, not the actuality of it — which has considerably less value.
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Hypocrisy is the Vaseline of political intercourse.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 14 2019, @10:19PM
No philosophically-derived right to act actually exists in fact without power backing it up.
I fully understand that *might makes right* in this context. We are on our own. Too bad people don't want to see that elephant...
But for connections to the network, there is also great safety in numbers (of connections), the more the merrier, and trust won't really have to be an issue, though some is always needed. Presently the ISP is your single point of failure, more powerful than a boat anchor. This is the damage the internet has to route around. And multicasting, gotta have multicasting.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..