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posted by martyb on Friday January 11 2019, @10:36PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-would-YOU-do? dept.

Got a contingency plan for men with guns showing up at your cubicle and ordering you to re-route traffic to please the government?

Section 606 of the 1934 Communications Act provides for government takeover of wired and radio communication in the event of war or "other national emergency".

I'm not saying anything will happen in the next few days. Trump's state of emergency might be just talk. It might be limited to its stated purpose. It's rare for actual disasters to happen.

You've got a disaster recovery plan (DRP), though. If it's not in the next few days, a "national emergency" problem might show up sometime down the road. Does your DRP cover it?

It's hard to imagine a technical solution. This may require the company lawyer to prepare a [Layer 8] contingency plan in advance.


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by RandomFactor on Friday January 11 2019, @10:53PM (14 children)

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 11 2019, @10:53PM (#785277) Journal

    31 currently in effect. Full list of all 31 and when declared.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/politics/trump-wall-active-national-emergency/index.html [cnn.com]

    Clinton declared the most, Obama next, and GW third.

    Trump is in line with Bush's rate currently and lags far behind Clinton's.

    Trump has an uncanny knack for drawing the spotlight to abuses that have been in place for ages. That's actually a good thing if we manage to eliminate some of them.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bob_super on Saturday January 12 2019, @12:09AM (8 children)

    by bob_super (1357) on Saturday January 12 2019, @12:09AM (#785305)

    Almost all of those 31 do not qualify as "national emergency" in my book. The terminology is really suspect, and just a way for the Prez to go around the slow Congress.

    More importantly, can I mod this whole topic "stupid" ? It's completely nonsensical conspiracy/panic/paranoid crap with no basis in potential reality : state of emergency (deploying the guns) is not national emergency/crisis.
    Martyb is usually very discerning with what he lets through, so I guess the cat jumped on the keyboard.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday January 12 2019, @01:35AM (4 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday January 12 2019, @01:35AM (#785331) Homepage

      If I recall correctly, NCommander became a radio ham. I have a license, just never used it. When shit hits the fan, perhaps having a shortwave radio will allow one to communicate with the outside world.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:22AM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:22AM (#785364) Journal

        communicate with the outside world

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjt-xRkjFaY [youtube.com]

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by anubi on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:34AM (1 child)

        by anubi (2828) on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:34AM (#785369) Journal

        And learn the Morse code....

        So you can use "QRP" low power technology so you can communicate worldwide with like five watts of power.

          Humongous antennas and massive transmitted power will only attract woe to your house.

        In such a scenario, you will need to communicate " under the radar", setting up wherever you can, run off a car battery, and may have to use any part of the spectrum you find clear enough to use.

        You may be little more than a cricket, but just stay out of the recording studio, that is don't call attention to yourself by stepping where you mess up other peoples stuff.

        You won't have much bandwidth, but you can have range. We do similar with our deep space probes...

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        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @09:29AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @09:29AM (#786382)

          ban?

          I couldn't find the article upon further searching, but I remember seeing an accusation with citations about that in the past few months that stated LimeSDRs and other transmit capable SDR units were going to be banned in the US for both regular and HAM purchase. Maybe that was fake, but if it wasn't, can someone re-link the provided story to prove/disprove it?

          A few transmit capable SDRs kept in a bugout box and you can get whatever you need done wherever you need to do it with nothing more than the right antenna frequency shifter, and protocol profile.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @10:03AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @10:03AM (#785440)

        If I recall correctly, NCommander became a radio ham.

        Is it better than radio bacon...errrr... beacon?

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 12 2019, @02:10AM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 12 2019, @02:10AM (#785340) Journal

      You might want to mod it silly. Cubicle creatures don't make policy, they don't make contingency plans, or whatever.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:50AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:50AM (#785377)

        When I was relegated from the lab to the cubicle, I found I no longer did much of anything.

        Its damn hard work to make a meaningful sounding report of the nothing I am getting done while I am dutifully at my desk, while my tools regain idle in the lab. The corporate name for this is "leadership", while any attempts I may make to do the things I am good at would only be reported as " insubordination".

        Only corporate investment executives using other peoples money or governments can afford to do things this way.

        Not even as much as take a shit.

        Which I could have done on the bathroom stall, which wasn't much smaller.

    • (Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Saturday January 12 2019, @02:30AM

      by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 12 2019, @02:30AM (#785346) Journal

      More importantly, can I mod this whole topic "stupid" ? It's completely nonsensical conspiracy/panic/paranoid crap with no basis in potential reality

      +1 Agree

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Saturday January 12 2019, @12:41AM (4 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday January 12 2019, @12:41AM (#785314) Journal

    Oh noes, other president declared emergencies too?!?!

    Lets take a look.....

    You're right! There is absolutely no difference between these two emergency declarations:

    Iran, y'know, the "Death to America" guys, are on the cusp of creating nuclear weapons.
    What could possibly go wrong: Stick a nuke in a shipping container and detonate it in a US port.

    vs.

    The southern US border, where illegal crossings are at their lowest point in decades, still has some illegal crossings.
    What could possibly go wrong: A brown person trades his labor for money (and pays sales tax).

    THESE ARE THE EXACT SAME

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @02:49AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @02:49AM (#785351)

      THESE ARE THE EXACT SAME

      Well, the offending parties are a very similar shade of non-white and both speak non-English.

    • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:54AM (1 child)

      by Sulla (5173) on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:54AM (#785380) Journal

      The population of Iran is right around 80 million. I don't recall 1/4 of the population of Iran invading our country with disregard for our laws.

      Iran sits over there and threatens to lob a nuke at our allies because we are bullying them. Iran, unlike North Korea, is a rational country that would not turn itself into glass to get a little of revenge. Iran is somehow a global threat yet they can't even enforce Burka laws in its own capital.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @09:36AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @09:36AM (#786385)

        the leadership there has been on-record stating they would not ever perform a first-strike with WMDs after the gas attacks on them by Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war. While I can't say for certain they would live up to that statement in a future conflict, they have not so far used such a weapon in a modern conflict, unlike the US. And while I dislike their funding support of separatist groups in other countries in the region in their own attempts at hegemony, I will note they are just following through on the same behavior the US, UK, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and dozens of other nations have been doing in the region since colonial times. Keep in mind Iran's Shah only regained power from a pro-democracy government in response to the US/UK overthrowing the rightfully elected government to ensure their control over Iran's oil reserves. Much of the Middle East's current problems are directly related to the West's meddling in their affairs in sloppy and often publicly documented fashions, rather than necessarily the original will of the people. But if you have to choose between a foreign strongman and a local one, most people will choose the local one as more likely to represent their needs, and if nothing else, easier to oust when they finally grow tired or desperate enough to throw their yoke off.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday January 12 2019, @09:52AM

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Saturday January 12 2019, @09:52AM (#785438) Homepage Journal

      You're listening. Maybe you've gone to my MAGA Rallies. Maybe you saw my Tuesday night Address on NBC, ABC, CBS, Fake News CNN, MSNBC, Fox News or Fox Business -- I remember that you tweeted about the tremendous ratings for that show, very big with the 18-49 demo. And, you almost get it. But, you don't get it yet.

      You know, one of the numbers that jumps out is last year, in 2017, actually. Over 3,700 known or suspected terrorists tried to enter into this country. These are serious numbers, when you see the human trafficking. In 2017, our ICE agents saved over 900 kids. One year alone, saved over 900 kids from sexual assault and human trafficking -- things that are happening at the southern border because there’s no wall, there’s no physical barrier. It’s a problem of national security. It’s a problem of terrorists. There’s no way to actually control ports of entry. I'm the first President to honestly confront the crisis of radical Islamic terrorism. Of Islamic extremism, and the Islamists and Islamic terror of all kinds.

      You know, I talk about human traffickers. I talk about drugs. I talk about gangs. But a lot of people don’t say, we have terrorists coming through the southern border because they find that’s probably the easiest place to come through. They drive right in and they make a left. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. So we’re not going to do that. We won’t be doing pieces. We won’t be doing it in dribs and drabs.

      We haven’t been sitting still for the first, believe it or not, less than two years. We’ve been working very, very hard. The wall is, we’ve done a lot of miles of wall already. So we’re not just starting off fresh, but we have large numbers of miles that we have to do. And we can’t let gaps. Because if you have gaps, those people are going to turn their vehicles, or the gangs -- they’re going to come in through those gaps. And we cannot let that happen. We can have a wonderful port of entry, but you have 2,000 miles of border between the United States and Mexico. And if you take a look and you see, like we do, through certain technology -- including cameras and airplanes, not just drones -- you’ll see vast numbers of vehicles driving through the desert and entering where you don’t have a very powerful fence or a wall. I was explained too, and I explained to people -- because it’s really common sense: So you have ports of entry, and we have great security at the ports of entry, and then you may have fencing or walls, up and down, left and right, east and west. But they stop because we don’t have proper border security.

      These people have vehicles and they drive to the right. They’re not going through where we have great Border Patrol officers and ICE officers, and military now. I tell you, the military has done a fantastic job. They don’t stop. They go right to the easiest part and the weakest part, sometimes out in desert. But you have miles and miles and miles of unprotected area. And you can see where they drive over. You even have people walking that track. And that’s a very dangerous trek. And they bring children -- or even worse, they use children.

      The Obama Administration made a very bad deal with Iran. Great deal for Iran. But bad for our Country. The terrible Iran Deal, besides granting U. S. citizenship to 2,500 Iranians, including to government officials -- how big and bad is that? -- gave Iran total freedom to develop the nuclear. I brought back the Sanctions -- I moved very strongly. But, we don't know how far they got with that. I'll tell you this, we did the Back Pack Nuke, very successfully. And Russia has had tremendous success with that one. Not great, Russia is a very tough competitor. But Iran, I would actually say they're a foe. People don't think of this, Iran has become a foe. And you think about, what if they send a child with the Back Pack Nuke? That child can just drive right into our Country. I say, our Country. But if you don't have a border, you don't have a country. At all.

      The fact is that if we don’t have barriers, walls -- call them what you want -- but if we don’t have very strong barriers, where people cannot any longer drive right across -- they have unbelievable vehicles. They make a lot of money. They have the best vehicles you can buy. They have stronger, bigger, and faster vehicles than our police have, and than ICE has, and than Border Patrol has. So they’re pretty good at that. They have areas that they go to. It’s like a highway. And we have to close them up. And if we don’t close them up, you’re all kidding yourselves. Foolish!!!