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posted by martyb on Saturday January 12 2019, @07:21AM   Printer-friendly
from the It's-not-easy-being-white-supremacists dept.

Over at the CCN, Gab is having trouble even getting its bitcoin on.

The declaration by free speech social network Gab that the firm was still allowed on Square’s bitcoin-friendly Cash App after being banned on other platforms may have been premature.

This emerged after the social media platform that is occasionally referred to as “alt-right Twitter,” over its popularity with extremist right-wingers, disclosed that the personal Square Cash account of the firm’s founder and CEO, Andrew Torba, had been deactivated.

Things like this are just bad for business.

Earlier this month as CCN reported, Gab had posted a tweet that gave the impression that Square’s Cash App — which allows users to buy and sell bitcoin — had reactivated Gab’s access. According to Breaker magazine, Square might have unknowingly reactivated an account belonging to Gab but will continue to “pro-actively delete any new accounts that it learned were connected with Gab.”

[...] Besides Square, other platforms that have banned Gab in the recent past include cryptocurrency exchange Coinbase, online payment processing firm Stripe, bitcoin payment service provider BitPay and online payments system PayPal.

Currently, bitcoin, as well as money orders and checks sent to its post office address, are the only ways for Gab to process payments for its premium service, GabPro. On January 8, Gab announced that it had integrated with open-source crypto payment processor BTCPay Server.


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @12:46PM (16 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @12:46PM (#785480)

    No joy for wswswsws [wsws.org]:

    The American payment-processing corporation PayPal has blocked sales of the World Socialist Web Site pamphlet, The Struggle Against Imperialism and for Workers' Power in Iran [mehring.com].

    The effective banning of the sale of a book represents a dangerous new stage in the ongoing campaign to criminalize political expression and censor freedom of speech on the Internet.

    Mehring Books customers who attempt to purchase the pamphlet using PayPal currently receive the following message: "PayPal gateway has rejected request. This transaction cannot be completed because it violates the PayPal User Agreement (#13122: Transaction refused)."

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @12:59PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @12:59PM (#785484)

    Only an alt-right site would promote a racist book like that.

    • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:30PM (1 child)

      by Sulla (5173) on Saturday January 12 2019, @03:30PM (#785537) Journal

      Maybe the payment processors just dont want them or their kids eaten in the next great communist inspired famine.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @06:27PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @06:27PM (#785615)

        On the contrary, the payment processors do not want their exorbitant wealth and disproportionate, anti-democratic, oligarchical control of society questioned.

        They have much in common with the Stalinist bureaucracy.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Saturday January 12 2019, @02:45PM (10 children)

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Saturday January 12 2019, @02:45PM (#785516) Homepage Journal

    At least 800,000 Muslim Uyghurs are tormented - and often tortured or even killed - in China's concentration camps, possibly as many as three million.

    The World Socialist Web went on a visit then cheerfully reported that the Uyghurs are "learning Chinese laws".

    I used to actually read the World Socialist Web but for them to be such an enthusiastic promoter of epic-scale genocide really turned put me off.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @07:03PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @07:03PM (#785634)

      This is just how it goes, whether your socialism is nationalist (Nazi) or globalist. People won't be good little socialists, sharing everything and accepting poverty, without a bit of slaughter.

      I have to admit, socialism's violence might be the only viable opposition to Islam's violence. So there's that. I'm still not a fan.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @07:42PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @07:42PM (#785644)

        A twisted interpretation of history. As has been said a million times, if the NSDAP is a socialist party, then the DPRK is run by a democratic party and the PRC is run by a republican party. Hitler, Kim, and Mao do not represent socialist, democratic, or republican tendencies. You also smear the billions of Muslims in the world who are not violent. You ignore the role of Western imperialism in the creation of poverty, the overthrow of legitimate democratic governments, and the promotion of violence in the Middle East and Africa.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @12:04AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @12:04AM (#785714)

          Compare Nazi/fascist stuff with conservative/republican/right and with liberal/democrat/left to see what it looks like.

          Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Nazi programs called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. (how else could they round up the undesirables?) They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Nazis loved identity politics.

          It is what it is. If you are socialist, own it.

          Modern socialists in the USA would only disagree with a few things. They prefer globalism, and they would select different groups as the chosen people.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @05:42PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @05:42PM (#785940)

            You clearly need to study 1920s and 1930s Germany in more detail, so that you may understand the failures of the SPD and KPD and how the NSDAP used that to its political advantage.

            Socialism and fascism are very different. There are no chosen people in socialism. I will not own something simply because some uneducated idiot in the internet tells me I must.

            They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen.

            This one in particular bugs me. Please read this section (The Picket Line, Defense Guards/Workers’ Militia and The Arming of the Proletariat) [marxists.org] of Trotsky's The Transitional Program. It is only the pseudo-left, in their political collaboration with capitalism, that suggests disarming the populace. That right there should tell you gobs about the difference between Trotskyist socialism in its drive to arm the populace and Nazi fascism in its drive to disarm the populace.

            I was, and remain, a Second Amendment person, even as the "Second Amendment people" make the Founders of the USA spin in their graves.

            However, next I'm sure that, in your quest to equivocate socialism and fascism, you will tell me that Trotsky's worker's militia is no different whatsoever from the Montana and Michigan militias. Your view of the world is hopelessly superficial.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @07:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @07:33PM (#785641)

      I used to actually read the World Socialist Web but for them to be such an enthusiastic promoter of epic-scale genocide really turned put me off.

      I think we must be reading different World Socialist Web Sites. I'm reading the one at wsws.org that as much to say about the failures of Maoism and Stalinism.

      From 2001. China’s stake in the US "war on terrorism" [wsws.org]:

      Whatever the involvement of the Afghani-based Al Qaeda in training Uyghur fighters, the source of the unrest in Xinjiang is resentment over social inequality and decades of religious and cultural repression by Beijing. Spurred on by the victory of the Afghani mujaheddin against the Soviet Union, Islamic separatism gathered support in Xinjiang in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

      Large-scale unrest against Chinese rule was brutally suppressed. In the mid-1990s, it is estimated that China deployed up to 300,000 troops into the province, backed by paramilitary units among Xinjiang’s eight million ethnic Chinese. In May 1997, according to Amnesty International, hundreds were executed and thousands imprisoned after major demonstrations in the city of Yining. In the last four years, there have been scattered reports of ongoing guerilla operations, bombings and assassinations by Uyghur extremists.

      Beijing has welcomed the collapse of the Taliban regime, which has both deprived Uyghur separatists of a safe haven and opened up the possibility of China securing a stake in Afghanistan. Beijing is calling for a role in the UN transitional administration in Kabul, to provide political, technical and financial assistance to rebuild the country.

      More recently, US push for sanctions of China over treatment of Uyghur minority [wsws.org]:

      China, in its submission to the UN committee, said “there are no such things as re-education centres or counter-extremism training centres in Xinjiang,” adding that claims of a million Uyghurs being held in such facilities were “completely untrue.” Such declarations are certainly false. Beijing has cracked down ruthlessly on any protests or expressions of separatist sentiment in Xinjiang and heavily censors news reports.

      As the westernmost province of China, Xinjiang is a focus for many of the land routes and pipelines planned to Central Asia and on to Europe. The congressional letter to the Trump administration seeks to encourage Washington to exploit Uyghur separatism to disrupt the Belt and Road Initiative and potentially fracture China itself.

      The CIA and other agencies of US imperialism have long-standing ties with various Uyghur and Tibetan separatist organisations around the globe. Funds have been funnelled through the US-financed National Endowment for Democracy to the Uyghur American Association and the World Uyghur Congress based in Munich, which has close connections to the US propaganda arm, Radio Free Asia. These US activities are used by Beijing as another justification for their own repressive measures.

      Neither Beijing nor Washington has the moral upper hand. Both only offer exploitation, repression, and suffering to the Uyghurs. In fact, Washington I believe has a systemic track record of offering such things in Faustian bargains to Muslims.

    • (Score: 2, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 13 2019, @02:46AM (4 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 13 2019, @02:46AM (#785766) Journal

      It must be noted that Islam is incompatible with any form of government which is not Islamic.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @05:47PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @05:47PM (#785941)

        You mean political Islam. The same could be said of political Christianity. Look at Israel for an example of another Yahweh religion as a political power. This is why the Founders of the USA ultimately decided on the necessity of the First Amendment and Jefferson's separation of church and state.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 13 2019, @05:59PM (2 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 13 2019, @05:59PM (#785946) Journal

          I take it, then, that you live in Rome. That is about the only Christian government that I'm aware of. Salt Lake City? Tell us more about your home.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @06:17PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @06:17PM (#785955)

            *snort* lol!

            Do you even history bro?

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 13 2019, @07:02PM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 13 2019, @07:02PM (#785971) Journal

              No, it would be politically incorrect to tell or even to listen to his story. It's her story now.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @05:45PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @05:45PM (#785596)

    I'd love to believe that the ctrl-left is also getting burned by censorship, but probably the issue is two words in the title. PayPal is prohibited from doing business in Iran. The title literally says "in Iran".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @06:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 12 2019, @06:31PM (#785616)

      Not the ctrl-left. The authentic left is being burned by censorship. The ctrl-left appears to have full support of the state apparatus to operate with impunity in academia. See Soylent's coverage of the Grievance Studies affair.