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posted by martyb on Sunday January 13 2019, @12:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the Hiding-In-Plain-Site dept.

Privacy advocates have been on about how big data and large datasets can be be used against the population for decades. Now key data released by the immigration department may provide the key to bringing barbaric crimes out into the open. Data released by the Government shows thousands of child brides allowed by immigration. Accounts by some of the victims detail how they were used to gain access to America even though they were underage. While some senators have sworn to close the loopholes used to bring child brides into the US we can only expect more of this type of activity to come to light in the future as the public engages in analysis of data released by governments.


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 13 2019, @01:21PM (11 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 13 2019, @01:21PM (#785888) Homepage Journal

    Defining someone who can sexually reproduce as a child is idiocy to begin with. By all means don't define them as full adults but if they're stuck with taking the responsibility for their behavior and the consequences thereof then they need to be afforded some measure of status. And no amount of legislation is going to be able to remove that responsibility or the consequences.

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  • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Sunday January 13 2019, @03:09PM (5 children)

    by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 13 2019, @03:09PM (#785913) Journal

    Defining someone who can sexually reproduce as a child is idiocy

    So. Here is a brief list of people who have sexually reproduced: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers [wikipedia.org]

    The people on the list are aged five to ten years old. Many people who reproduce sexually fall within a higher age band, of course, but for the average to be where it is, the outliers above must be offset by outliers below.

    Now, I suggest that either it's idiocy to say that these children were children, as you posit, or idiocy to say that it's idiocy to say such a thing.

    Guessing which one I am leaning towards may be left as an exercise for the reader.

    Since people are individuals, we should perhaps look at averages for age of majority, and take statistical age of near-certain reproductive maturity into account in determining age of majority.

    21 years? Valid only in that it is an absurdly conservative figure, inflated so wildly that it's almost guaranteed to capture the maturity of those who will, indeed, eventually mature.

    18 years? See above.

    In places like The UK [youthoria.org], 16 years is the legal and practical age of majority for many areas, including consent to marry. This seems pretty reasonable and non-idiotic.

    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday January 13 2019, @05:53PM

      by sjames (2882) on Sunday January 13 2019, @05:53PM (#785944) Journal

      But note that that list covers multiple centuries and most of those cases are the result of a medical issue triggering puberty prematurely.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 14 2019, @01:28AM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 14 2019, @01:28AM (#786191) Homepage Journal

      Now, I suggest that either it's idiocy to say that these children were children, as you posit, or idiocy to say that it's idiocy to say such a thing.

      Or they're extremely rare exceptions and you're being pedantic.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @08:25AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @08:25AM (#786356)

      Why use age when we can measure? Age is especially problematic for immigrants, with lots of falsification occurring.

      For females: Use an MRI scanner to check the bone structure around the womb. This includes the lowest rib, the pelvic opening, and the interconnecting spine. Have a computer model the passage of a 5 kg baby. If a birth wouldn't need medical intervention, then the female is ready.

      For males: The male must show an ability to fully support a family consisting of himself, a female, and at least one child.

      For both: They must be able to read and write in the country's primary language. They must show some basic understanding of consumer finance, how babies are made, and how diseases spread.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @11:56AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @11:56AM (#787346)

        That would prevent most asylum seeker applications from being successful

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 19 2019, @01:16PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 19 2019, @01:16PM (#788612)

        For both: They must be able to read and write in the country's primary language. They must show some basic understanding of consumer finance, how babies are made, and how diseases spread.

        You want to prevent most Trumpers from having kids?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @04:19PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @04:19PM (#785923)

    They do have status: if it is disadvantageous to them, people under 18 are considered not children or children, depending on the situation.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by HiThere on Sunday January 13 2019, @05:56PM (1 child)

    by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 13 2019, @05:56PM (#785945) Journal

    Sorry, but the ability to reproduce doesn't mean that the body is really ready to do so. Reproducing too early can cause a female permanent bone damage, among other objectively measurable harm.

    I'll agree that the modern meaning of "child" is inappropriate to such an intermediate state, and "adolescent" is preferable. But "child" is often used to cover the entire range of ages including adolescent, even though this leads to inappropriate arguments and decisions.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 14 2019, @01:05AM (1 child)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday January 14 2019, @01:05AM (#786163) Journal

    Found the paedo :D

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