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posted by chromas on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:20AM   Printer-friendly
from the rings-without-tokens dept.

Next-generation LHC: CERN lays out plans for €21-billion super-collider

CERN has unveiled its bold dream to build a new accelerator nearly four times as long as its 27-kilometer Large Hadron Collider—currently the world's largest—and up to six times more powerful.

The European particle physics laboratory, outside Geneva, Switzerland, outlined the plan in a technical report on 15 January.

The document offers several preliminary designs for a Future Circular Collider (FCC)—which would be the most powerful particle-smasher ever built—with different types of colliders ranging in cost from around €9 billion (US$10.2 billion) to €21 billion. It is the lab's opening bid in a priority-setting process over the next two years, called the European Strategy Update for Particle Physics, and it will affect the field's future well into the second half of the century.

[...] Not everyone is convinced the super collider is a good investment. "There is no reason to think that there should be new physics in the energy regime that such a collider would reach," says Sabine Hossenfelder, a theoretical physics at Frankfurt Institute for Advanced Studies in Germany. "That's the nightmare that everyone has on their mind but doesn't want to speak about."

Hossenfelder says that the large sums involved might be better spent on other types of huge facilities. For example, she says that placing a major radio telescope on the far side of the Moon, or a gravitational-wave detector in orbit, would be safer bets in terms of their return on science.

CERN press release and poster.

Also at The Verge.


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  • (Score: 2) by melikamp on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:56AM (3 children)

    by melikamp (1886) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:56AM (#787281) Journal

    Yes, Geo-centrism is absurd, silly. Quite close to the Electric Universe or Flat-earthers.

    Omg teh flat-earthers, with so many of them around, could it be that this theory is something more than stupidity? (I dare you, gentlereader, to find just one fucking piece of Earth that is actually geometrically flat, before you even begin to generalize.) It just seems like every developed country has a sizeable fraction of flat-earthers: USA, Australia, Japan... If a theory is espoused all around the globe, may be, just may be, it's worth some more investigation?

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday January 16 2019, @11:14AM (1 child)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 16 2019, @11:14AM (#787330) Journal

    If a theory is espoused all around the globe, may be, just may be, it's worth some more investigation?

    Ok, let's look: "is... all around the globe". More investigation finished: the Earth is a globe and round.
    Next!

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday January 17 2019, @02:58AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 17 2019, @02:58AM (#787735) Journal
      I knew the internet was good for something other than porn delivery.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:58PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:58PM (#787414)

    the (cut) plane thru the LHC ring is completely (geometrically) flat, or so said the laser obeying the "straight" definition of space-time with gravity, used to build that ring-tunnel thingy ...?