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posted by takyon on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:46PM   Printer-friendly
from the Why-Not-Re-Referendum? dept.

Brexit vote: What just happened and what comes next?

With only approximately two more months before a default no-deal "hard Brexit," the British Parliament has decisively rejected Prime Minister May's proposed plan for leaving the European Union.

There is a no confidence vote in works which, if successful, will dissolve the government and force another general election.

See also: Live: Latest as MPs debate no confidence vote


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Dr Spin on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:56PM (6 children)

    by Dr Spin (5239) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:56PM (#787559)

    I believe that the lack of democracy is an underlying cause. So you would prefer rule by Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson to rule by elected Euro-MPs? You want longer working hours, higher roaming charges, and bring back the lb weight and pounds, shillings and pence?

    The EU money is big, but its tiny compared to what it buys in benefits. Immigration from the EU is large numbers, but so is migration from the UK to Europe.

    One real problem is people whose last visit to Europe was in 1945, or who have never been, but heard about it from an uncle who was there on D-day (in his dreams).

    The main advantage of Brexit is that we will starve until people come to there senses. Not great in my opinion.

    The main cause for people voting for Brexit is abject poverty, brought about by kow-towing to to "financial institutions" which are largely criminal gangs, and operating the social security system as a Ponzi scheme for the last 70 years. The fact that both major political parties are hell bent on causing housing scarsity - the conservatives because their voters want house prices to rise, and Labour because their voters want social housing has not helped anyone. Giving more "sovereignty" to this kind of scum will help no one but them.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by isostatic on Thursday January 17 2019, @12:17PM (5 children)

    by isostatic (365) on Thursday January 17 2019, @12:17PM (#787865) Journal

    > The main advantage of Brexit is that we will starve until people come to there senses. Not great in my opinion.

    If (nodeal) brexit is as bad as predicted, we'll be rejoining the EU in 2022, with a LibDem/Green landslide with EU membership as a manifesto commitment. This will allow us to benefit from Schengen too

    That's based on
    1) The population has already changed it's mind and no longer wants to leave, which is why quitters don't want a "are you want to continue"
    2) People starving will be the old and poor, who were more likely to vote brexit, they won't be able to vote when they've died
    3) Rationing will be tiresome by then

    • (Score: 2) by turgid on Thursday January 17 2019, @07:10PM (3 children)

      by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 17 2019, @07:10PM (#787991) Journal

      By "we" you might mean just England and Wales. By then Northern Ireland could have made its escape from the disaster by reunifying with the Republic (and hence rejoining the EU) and Scotland may be independent and in the process of joining the EU as a sovereign state. I'm sure the EU would assist financially with Irish Reunification.

      • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Thursday January 17 2019, @07:58PM (2 children)

        by isostatic (365) on Thursday January 17 2019, @07:58PM (#788008) Journal

        Northern Ireland likely doesn't want to reunify, but in any case even if it did on the whole, a large number (those that voted DUP for instance) certainly don't, and that's not a good thing to be happening.

        The Good Friday agreement was an amazing pan-spectrum solution to the problem. Sadly Theresa May is determined to throw that away for political gain, and will hopefully get her comeuppance in the Hague fairly soon.

        • (Score: 2) by turgid on Thursday January 17 2019, @08:48PM (1 child)

          by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 17 2019, @08:48PM (#788020) Journal

          The last time I spoke to people from Northern Ireland they were far more open to the idea of reunification now as a result of the Brexit farce. BBC Newsnight also traveled across Northern Ireland and spoke to many people. The hard-core DUP types are a very small minority now. Things have moved on.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by isostatic on Friday January 18 2019, @12:12AM

            by isostatic (365) on Friday January 18 2019, @12:12AM (#788083) Journal

            It’s possible. If brexit occurs the sensible thing would be to have a referendum for independence in Scotland and test the waters on one for unification in NI.

            In Scotland especially the facts have changed since 2014, a major reason for the no vote was the uncertainty of remaining part of the EU

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by maxwell demon on Thursday January 17 2019, @07:15PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Thursday January 17 2019, @07:15PM (#787994) Journal

      But will the UK still meet the economic criteria for joining the EU?

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