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posted by chromas on Thursday January 17 2019, @08:30AM   Printer-friendly

Report: DOJ pursuing criminal charges against Huawei for theft of tech

In the wake of a civil lawsuit by T-Mobile and other telecommunications companies against the Chinese networking and telecommunications company Huawei, the US Department of Justice is reportedly conducting a criminal investigation of the company. According to a Wall Street Journal report, the DOJ is close to filing an indictment against Huawei for theft of trade secrets, including the technology used in a robot developed by T-Mobile to test smartphones.

[...] In the recent civil case, which was originally filed in 2014, a jury in Seattle found that Huawei had stolen robotic technology from a T-Mobile lab. Huawei had used the access it gained by being a handset supplier to obtain copies of the robot's specifications and steal software, parts, and trade secrets from the lab. According to T-Mobile's original filing in the suit, "Huawei initially tried to cover up its actions but ultimately admitted that its employees misappropriated parts and information about T-Mobile's robot in coordination with Huawei R&D so that Huawei could build and improve its own testing robot."


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @11:35AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @11:35AM (#787851)

    Reminder that Free Trade only works with "all else equal" between countries. PRC's only comparative advantage lies in abysmal labor laws, brazen contempt for the environment, and the dystopian police state that makes this all possible. Oh, and blatant technological theft.

    Soylentils may not be keen on "intellectual property," but the term theft applies very well here. It's destructive, because it's distortionary: resouces are siphoned away from innovative companies to those whose only talent lies in making cheap copies. In the long run, innovation will stagnate and only copy-making technology and supply chains will advance.

    tl;dr: fuck China

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @02:45PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @02:45PM (#787888)

    for all the patented technology they stole in order to spur on America's own Industrial Revolution?

    Because hint: American was flaunting IP laws back when the Chinese were still toiling under a paper tiger Emperor under the thumb of European powers.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by pTamok on Thursday January 17 2019, @08:02PM

      by pTamok (3042) on Thursday January 17 2019, @08:02PM (#788009)

      Re:Should America pay restitution to the British then...
      ...for all the patented technology they stole in order to spur on America's own Industrial Revolution?
      Because hint: American was flaunting IP laws back when the Chinese were still toiling under a paper tiger Emperor under the thumb of European powers

      That should be flouting, not flaunting.

      Grammarist: flout vs. flaunt [grammarist.com]
      Oxford Dictionaries:‘Flaunt’ or ‘flout’? [oxforddictionaries.com]
      Merriam-Webster: 'Flaunt' vs. 'Flout'. Is it wrong to confuse these words? [merriam-webster.com]
      English Grammar:Flaunt vs. Flout [englishgrammar.org]

      I have changed my spots, as I used to be pretty much a prescriptivist [wikipedia.org]. These days, I understand a descriptive [wikipedia.org] approach to English usage is more practical (Jacob Kaplan-Moss:Descriptivists and Prescriptivists [jacobian.org]. That said, I feel that a pragmatic or utilitarian approach to use of language is to ensure that your reader or listener has the best possible chance of understanding the meaning of what you are trying to convey. This means that, while language does develop in often unpredictable ways, it is helpful to maintain some usages to avoid confusion. While some people do use 'flaunt' to mean 'flout', the reader or listener can sometimes be led astray by the ambiguity, so I would recommend they are used 'correctly'.

      Alternatively, ignore the prescriptivists, flout convention, and flaunt your apparent ignorance.

      «Disobey all rules, including this one.»

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @03:16PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @03:16PM (#787895)

    what?

    they took it for free. that sort of trade has been proven to work; the problem is that they were caught.

    all of those places businesses outsource to in order to save money are experiencing similar problems... it won't ruin them today, but the executives will be retired by the time it happens. "they got theirs", and shareholder value is enriched during the siphoning, so nothing is expected to change.

    that wall for mexico won't stop this. maybe it's not supposed to and instead is supposed to distract from the real issues? make china pay for a firewall! they already know how how to make a good one; consider that these accused people are always local to the problem.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @03:47PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @03:47PM (#787901)

    tl;dr: fuck China

    Fuck America.... oh wait, that's happening already! There is even a race of who's a bigger idiot these days, America with Trump or UK with their Brexit disaster.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @05:19PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @05:19PM (#787944)

    and the dystopian police state that makes this all possible

    At least on that front, the US is keeping up.

  • (Score: 1) by pTamok on Thursday January 17 2019, @08:12PM

    by pTamok (3042) on Thursday January 17 2019, @08:12PM (#788015)

    PRC's only comparative advantage lies in abysmal labor laws, brazen contempt for the environment, and the dystopian police state that makes this all possible. Oh, and blatant technological theft.

    Hmm. Lets see now.

    PRC's only comparative advantage lies in

    • abysmal labor laws,
    • brazen contempt for the environment, and
    • the dystopian police state that makes this all possible. Oh, and
    • blatant technological theft.

    I guess you'll break out the comfy chair soon. [mit.edu]